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Bikewer

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So we had our little primary yesterday, and the GOP chose Todd Akin to oppose sitting Senator Claire McCaskill. In a race that was characterized by endless ads as to who was the more conservative of the conservatives, Akin is likely the most conservative (if by that term you mean extreme right-wing idealogue) of the bunch.
A bible-beating Christian, he wants to virtually outlaw contraception, eliminate social security and the departments of education and transportation, and has referred to Obama as "the greatest danger to our society".

Not only that... The state approved by a margin of 83% to 13% a "Right To Prayer" amendment that would make sure that Missourians have the right to pray in public. Of course, the constitution already covers that, but we just wanted to make sure...
However, this is worded so that kiddies who might be "offended" by naughty things like evolution and the Big Bang could opt out of those classes in school....

We're not quite in the same league as Louisiana, but we're gettin' there....
 
I've lived all over the U.S. of A. and happy to be in Michigan, which doesn't really have issues (historical baggage) and problems like this (religious zealotry).

If I lived in Mo., boy I might have high blood pressure!
 
Bikewer said:
However, this is worded so that kiddies who might be "offended" by naughty things like evolution and the Big Bang could opt out of those classes in school....
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I have two thoughts on this:
  1. Fine by me. This will reduce future competition for my kids to get good jobs.
  2. Fine by me, so long as they are still held to the same requirements and expectations for graduation and in tests. Let them fail biology and/or physics a couple of times because they opted out of important learning points.
 
Upchurch said:
I have two thoughts on this:
  1. Fine by me. This will reduce future competition for my kids to get good jobs.
  2. Fine by me, so long as they are still held to the same requirements and expectations for graduation and in tests. Let them fail biology and/or physics a couple of times because they opted out of important learning points.
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Golly, what a thought. I've been so focused on being miffed about such things, I forgot my daughter will surely benefit if this crap catches on a bit more. She'll be eminently more hire-able!
 
Monketey Ghost said:
Golly, what a thought. I've been so focused on being miffed about such things, I forgot my daughter will surely benefit if this crap catches on a bit more. She'll be eminently more hire-able!
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That's me. Always the God-damned optimist.



[off-topic]"The God-Damned Optimist" would make someone a great custom title. It's a shame I'm so much in love with the one I have.[/off-topic]


eta: I was just telling my wife that, when they are of age, I want to send a note to their school that my kids have no religious beliefs that would prevent them from participating in any lesson. And if they say they do, make them do it twice.
 
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Upchurch said:
I have two thoughts on this:
  1. Fine by me. This will reduce future competition for my kids to get good jobs.
  2. Fine by me, so long as they are still held to the same requirements and expectations for graduation and in tests. Let them fail biology and/or physics a couple of times because they opted out of important learning points.
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The problem with this theory is that it's not based in reality. Over and over the religious wackadoodles have proven that allowing us to pray is just half the step of making you pray and by extension;

1) there must be something wrong with any one who doesn't.
2) this is caused by something wrong with them and/or something they've been exposed to.

Since the sentiment is already out there, after all this is why they don't want their children having to learn about evolution. How long before your daughter is not only not allowed to take the classes but is austricised for wanting to.

There is a segment of religious in this country who are very comfortable with the idea of a christian Taliban. The only reason they are not actively taking up arms to accomplish it is because there is enough stupid people in this country who are giving them the power without having to resort to it. But one way or another it is very much on the radar of possibilities.
 
We just moved here!!!! AAAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHH!!!!!!
 
I'm developing a theory. Intelligence is produced in the oceans. It washes up on the shores and people absorb it. How else can you explain that the further you get away from the ocean* the stupider the population as a whole gets.

*Gulf of Mexico doesn't count. It's not an ocean.
 
You could be in California. We're drowning in debt, cities are declaring bankruptcy, and our politicians are pushing high speed rail and banning foie gras.
 
Bikewer said:
A bible-beating Christian, he wants to virtually outlaw contraception...
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False. Words mean things; contraception is a portmanteau of against conception. Akin does not oppose methods of contraception. You can argue that he opposes methods of birth control after conception.
 
Brainster said:
False. Words mean things; contraception is a portmanteau of against conception. Akin does not oppose methods of contraception. You can argue that he opposes methods of birth control after conception.
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Essentially, it is only the Catholic Church who has anything against contraception per se. Only the odd evangelist protestant sees it worse than distasteful.
 
Bikewer said:
Not only that... The state approved by a margin of 83% to 13% a "Right To Prayer" amendment that would make sure that Missourians have the right to pray in public.
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I hope the Hare Krishnas make the most of that new law. The fundies would be tripping over themselves to get it repealed.

Steve S
 
steve s said:
I hope the Hare Krishnas make the most of that new law. The fundies would be tripping over themselves to get it repealed.

Steve S
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Maybe it's an Onion piece I recall, not sure. But wasn't there a bill that passed in Indiana or Mississippi that afforded schools religious freedom (whatever that means for them) but then are re-analyzing it after realizing it wasn't specific to Christianity and other religions were capitalizing on it?

It sounds like an onion piece...
 
Lowpro said:
Maybe it's an Onion piece I recall, not sure. But wasn't there a bill that passed in Indiana or Mississippi that afforded schools religious freedom (whatever that means for them) but then are re-analyzing it after realizing it wasn't specific to Christianity and other religions were capitalizing on it?

It sounds like an onion piece...
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I wish it was only an Onion piece. It's not.

Meanwhile, in our own great state of Alabama, our PBS network is currently embroiled in controversy over the firings of executives opposed to the broadcast of a documentary by Christian Fundamentalist liar-about-history David Barton. Not to mention the fact that we're probably going to get this guy as our Chief Justice. Again.
 
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