• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Multiculturalism rocks!

The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's multiracialism. Arcade22 thinks that by avoiding the subject of race he can deflect charges of racism. No chance. Wanted him to know why.
 
Clippy said:
The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's multiracialism. Arcade22 thinks that by avoiding the subject of race he can deflect charges of racism. No chance. Wanted him to know why.
Click to expand...
Because you're proud of racism and he shouldn't be?
 
White ethnic groups are horribly boring, requiring enrichment. White ethnic groups don't really exist, so there's no basis to complain about 3rd world immigration. It's boilerplate.
 
Clippy said:
White ethnic groups are horribly boring, requiring enrichment. White ethnic groups don't really exist, so there's no basis to complain about 3rd world immigration. It's boilerplate.
Click to expand...
So you don't understand the meaning of boilerplate either. Gotcha.
 
I know... Define European. Where should you draw borders? Aren't we all human?
 
are you jewish Clippy? If you are what is the relevance that you see to this discussion?
 
Sigh. To the OP:

I'm white and American. I've been stalked and sexually harassed by strange men on more than one occasion. The first time I was stalked, I was just 12 years old. The man might not have realized how old I was. I certainly looked way older than 12 and was often mistaken for a teenager or even a college student. Or maybe he did know and he didn't care. Or maybe he did know full well and that's what he wanted. I don't know.

The first man who stalked me was Hispanic. The second one looked multiracial, maybe Hispanic. The third one looked multiracial but might have been Asian or mostly Asian.

It was painful, disturbing, distressing, traumatic, creepy, disgusting. Literally soul shattering. I blamed myself, thought it was somehow my fault that these things kept happening to me over and over. Even now, I find it painful and embarrassing to even tell others about it.

I was also once cornered by a strange white man who tried to give me 100 dollars to have sex with him when I was just 15 years old. In a public place. While dozens of people either didn't hear or see it, didn't realize what was going on or ignored it.

Guess what. It was painful, disturbing, distressing, traumatic, creepy, disgusting. Literally soul shattering.

The race of the person who harms you doesn't matter. If you are beaten up or robbed or anything else by a person of your own race, it hurts every bit as much as if it was by a person of another race. Not any more, not any less.

A white person's punch hurts as much as a black person's punch. As much as an Asian person's punch, as much as a Hispanic person's punch, as much as an Arabic person's punch, as much as any-other-human-being-in-the-world's punch.

You do not care about the skin color, eye color, hair texture, nose length, etc. of the person violently assaulting you!

If you do care, it's about social expectation. A white boy beat up by a black boy might have his ego very bruised because he might- consciously or subconsciously- think "I'm white! How dare that black kid!". Same for a black kid beat up by a white boy; he might feel he was victimized because of his race or feel ashamed of being beaten by a white kid. He might prefer to have lost a fight to a person of his own color. A white woman verbally or physically attacked by a black man might think- again, either in the back of her mind or not- "How dare a black man do that to a white woman!". And so on.

If it's just a regular crime not related to race, however, I can tell you that it sure as hell doesn't matter to the victim.

The reason people of color commit crimes more often than white people do here in America, in the UK, in Sweden and in other Western nations has to do with income level, education, social situations, etc. People who are poor, badly educated, live in the worst places, have the worst jobs, have the most children, grew up in the worst environment, etc. are more likely to be criminals. And the people who happen to be poor are immigrants and their children. That's it.

Their blackness didn't make them do it, their poverty did. Their poverty may be related to their blackness. That's all.
 
Last edited:
I didn't expect I'd kick over a rock. I was instead hoping that Arcade22 would reply.

Clippy said:
Typical leftist racism.
Click to expand...

:rolleyes:

I do not consider Swedes to be a race. They could be described as an ethnic group, a cultural group, a linguistic group, and/or members of a nation-state. But I don't see how you can argue that the physical distinctions between Swedes and (say) Danes and Norwegians are so great that they get to classify themselves as their very own race.

Now, Clippy, this thread is about multiculturalism. See the title, and the first post. If Arcade22 is opposed to multiculturalism, one may presume that he wants only Swedish culture practiced within that state’s borders. Is there now only a monoculture there? I doubt it, so I challenged him.

By putting him on the spot about how great an only-Swedish life is, I expected to highlight the absurdity of such a scenario. Maybe he would point out other cultural influences that may already exist harmoniously in Sweden. Do they have Chinese or Indian restaurants in Stockholm? Where can I get a good falafel sandwich in Gothenburg? Do the folks in Malmo buy imported Russian vodka or pierogis? (Mmmm, pierogis!) Do people in Linköping only listen to ABBA and the Cardigans or is there room for Chuck Berry and Manu Chao? Who's in your IT department? Are equal rights denied to Swedish citizens on account of them not passing the Swedish genealogical background check? Do "non-Swedes" get to participate in daily life, from small business to night-life to voting? Should you have been prevented from learning English in school? Etcetera.

My point is that there probably already is a multiculture in Sweden, and most of it is (I expect) not a problem at all. By asking Arcade22 about this, I was hoping to get a definitive answer from a local source.

Where exactly is your corner of Hyperborea, Clippy? Maybe you can tell us about the cool stuff in Sweden.
 
Clippy said:
White ethnic groups are horribly boring, requiring enrichment.
Click to expand...

There is no requirement at all. Huge numbers of people -- including white Europeans -- will naturally seek out new and tasty items from other cultures. Those cultures' people usually follow, if for no other reason than to supply these new markets. No one is forcing them to explore and make connections with other people, they do it on their own for pleasure. It takes cultural cops like yourself to try and block them from it for no good reason.

It’s sad, really. The link you cite is about traits derived from being stuck at home. Now that we can all get out more, and more easily, who are you to stop anyone?


Clippy said:
White ethnic groups don't really exist, so there's no basis to complain about 3rd world immigration.
Click to expand...

European ethnic groups do exist, but the lines between them are porous. Does someone stop being a [insert ethnic identity here] because they do things that are not historically associated with that group?

As for "3rd world immigration", if you had read this thread you would have gotten a clue that problem behaviors are not inevitable with or exclusive to such immigrants. There is more to the story, and for some reason you don't want to address it.

How do you define "Third World", Clippy?


Clippy said:
Are you Jewish, paximperium?
Click to expand...

Unfortunately, I cannot claim that distinction, Clippy. (While I can’t answer for Paximperium, I can answer for myself.)

So now you tell me, how does my not being Jewish have anything to do with what I am saying?
 
Clippy said:
The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's multiracialism. Arcade22 thinks that by avoiding the subject of race he can deflect charges of racism. No chance. Wanted him to know why.
Click to expand...

Because he's on a Jewish forum... yeah. That was obviously it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom