Missing prescriptions?

[Carrot Flower King]

I was using a joke quote from the Dark Knight. I appreciate your help but so far you've basically just said "memory issues". I'm trying to get more in depth on each question. Like for the pill count, he wouldve had to taken 5 pills around the same time he got home, which was when he lost them. And I don't know why or how he'd take that many

Oh, a "joke quote" from some super hero movie...Which I've never seen.

I have said somewhat more than "memory issues", in that I've explained how memory problems are pretty much inevitable under these circumstances. But you "don't buy" that for reasons beyond me.

Memory problems are a real thing and incredibly common: if you are blessed with a perfect memory (which you aren't, as you've already mangled one of your "weird" stories in the other thread), then great, but no-one else is. And it is a highly usual explanation for many, many things.

Still not seeing anything about this one to suggest otherwise.

PS taking too many TCAs is a really, really bad idea, even at the lower than usual dose which will be used for sleep issues, and do one a whole lot of not good. I have met folk who've done that intentionally.

 

[theprestige]

The following is a comment i received on my other thread. I don't know if there's a way to tag the user but I asked for his permission and if he says no I'll delete it, but I was hoping someone could help me explain this:

"A few weeks ago I picked up a prescription, and lost it; I had refills, so the pharmacy filled it again - AND I LOST IT. I *still* had refills, but then the doc said maybe I shouldn't be on this medication - he was worried about my absentmindedness; he didn't want to miss anything if I was having bad side effects. Well, a couple of days later one of the bottles turned up, but the date made no sense and five pills were gone which should have been impossible.

To cut the anecdote short it was a complete mystery. The fill date does not match my memory of either of the lost refills, and the pill count is off. If I were one to assign cosmic meaning I might wonder if the "universe" wanted me to get off this drug. But if so, why did it throw the bottle back at me ?

I'm not automatically hostile to the idea that the universe is sending me messages, and I know people who talk this way all the time. But ultimately I don't have the kind of brain that can really believe it, either. When I talk like that, I'm speaking ironically."

You should consider the possibility that your household is a more inattentive and disorganized than you think. It's a very human failure mode, and it explains a lot of the stuff that you find strange.

 

[DebunkThisPls]

Oh, a "joke quote" from some super hero movie...Which I've never seen.

I have said somewhat more than "memory issues", in that I've explained how memory problems are pretty much inevitable under these circumstances. But you "don't buy" that for reasons beyond me.

Memory problems are a real thing and incredibly common: if you are blessed with a perfect memory (which you aren't, as you've already mangled one of your "weird" stories in the other thread), then great, but no-one else is. And it is a highly usual explanation for many, many things.

Still not seeing anything about this one to suggest otherwise.

PS taking too many TCAs is a really, really bad idea, even at the lower than usual dose which will be used for sleep issues, and do one a whole lot of not good. I have met folk who've done that intentionally.

I apologize for getting so pushy, I do appreciate your help. Thanks, have a good day

 

[DebunkThisPls]

I also totally get your first reply, when you didnt get my reference. But once i explained it, it shouldn't have been a big deal. Just a simple "Oh I'm sorry, I haven't seen that movie and didn't get the reference". Once again, I understand I was pushy, and probably rude too, but The only real question i had was about the 5 pills missing, obviously he forgot them. But my question had nothing to do with memory, it was about WHY he would take 5 pills, not HOW he forgot which looking back, was a stupid question.

 

[Thermal]

I also totally get your first reply, when you didnt get my reference. But once i explained it, it shouldn't have been a big deal. Just a simple "Oh I'm sorry, I haven't seen that movie and didn't get the reference". Once again, I understand I was pushy, and probably rude too, but The only real question i had was about the 5 pills missing, obviously he forgot them. But my question had nothing to do with memory, it was about WHY he would take 5 pills, not HOW he forgot which looking back, was a stupid question.

Possibly filling a pill caddy. Those plastic containers that help you remember what meds to take at what time.

 

[DebunkThisPls]

True true, but wouldn't he then eventually realize this? Now that being said, you gave some other great explanations one or two days ago, thank you for that.

 

[Lithrael]

If you can aim your desire to explain everything, at something where your answers might actually help you understand a subject, you might have more fun.

Like, why a movie director chose this or that shot, why a writer made a character say or do this exact thing. If you aim that desire to disassemble everyday events at something that actually had to be assembled BY somebody FOR an actual reason (creating a narrative)...

You might get both some insight into storytelling, AND a feeling for what it looks like when things really are being put in place intentionally, vs random chance (or even vs thoughtless storytelling like, say, Hallmark movies).

 

[Thermal]

True true, but wouldn't he then eventually realize this? Now that being said, you gave some other great explanations one or two days ago, thank you for that.

NP. Here's the thing, though: skeptics aren't big on speculating. They're big on evaluating evidence. If there is not enough evidence to make the call, they might default to "insufficient data for a meaningful conclusion" (from Issac Asimov's short story The Last Question. Check it out if you haven't already). See, we can speculate all over the place, but skeptics like to shake off the spectrum of possibilities and focus on actual evidence. It's kind of grounding.

In the Missing Pills thing, we could speculate everything from thieves to a rogue paperboy. But that doesn't help us to find out what happened. Only sufficient evidence will do that.

 

[arthwollipot]

If you're interested, I suggest doing some digging into the work of Elizabeth Loftus (wikipedia link), whose research has revealed exactly how malleable and unreliable memory is. Memory is not like a YouTube video, that plays out on your mind in exactly the same way every time it is accessed. It's more like a story that you have to re-tell yourself every time you want to recall something. At any point inaccuracies can creep into memory that you swear are original to the memory itself, but they are not.

And - here's the important thing - this happens to absolutely everybody. There are no exceptions. It happens to you, it happens to me, it happens to Elizabeth Loftus. It happens to people who have good memories, it happens to people who have bad memories.

And the illusion is very strong - your memories don't feel like they have changed. It can take a considerable amount of convincing to persuade someone that their memory may have inaccuracies. But I remember it clear as day! Like it happened yesterday! The memory may be perfectly clear. But it may still contain inaccuracies.

Memory is weird. Brains are weird. But people like Loftus are drawing back the curtain on exactly how weird and giving us a greater understanding of the world around us.

 

[bluesjnr]

You should consider the possibility that your household is a more inattentive and disorganized than you think. It's a very human failure mode, and it explains a lot of the stuff that you find strange.

This doesn't, in any way, address the OP you've quoted.

What has the state of DebunkThisPls's house got to do with Minoosh's memory fail?