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Missing our Troofs

Macgyver1968 said:
Yes...we know just how closely it hits to home...assuming your home is somewhere on the mothership orbiting Pluto. :)

It's easy to run away...don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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We're not allowed to discuss Dick Oliver anymore. How do you feel about that?
 
jammonius said:
We're not allowed to discuss Dick Oliver anymore. How do you feel about that?
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You are off-topic; at least you have the dumbest delusions of 911 truth with wheel-covers and horse-trailers.

This thread is like a truther trap.
 
jammonius said:
As what happened on 9/11 has not ever been reliably determined by a competent and validly conducted investigation, the issue of "belief" is largely irrelevant in my view.
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jammonius said:
What happened on 9/11 has not ever been reliably proven by a duly authorized entity in the form of a validly determined investigation.
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Put 'em back when you've finished Jam :=]


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Merriam-Webster definition of belief HERE:-


3: conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence
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It is my belief that Dr Judy is a complete nutter.


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3: conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence
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I question evidence.

I do not question the conviction of truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon.
 
jammonius said:
We're not allowed to discuss Dick Oliver anymore. How do you feel about that?
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Who said we weren't? That thread was closed for incivility and insults...not content. We've had countless re-hash threads here...not that a new thread is needed...if it couldn't be said in 40 pages...I don't believe 40 more will uncover anything new.

It's just your "unconventional" (mom always said..be nice) way of thinking tends to bring out emotional responses from some.

Why do you think DEW has been discussed enough? You gave us the alphabet soup of companies to investigate..I did a little investigating, and didn't see anything that points to space based energy weapons capable of turning steel to dust. In fact, I've found nothing about any energy that would be capable of such a thing..even in theory..much less practice.

You referred us to Dr. Judy's site...it's just a complete mess of disorganized hodge podge photos that she believes backs up her case..it make sense to her, but not to any else. She doesn't even answer the most basic questions about her theory.
 
CompusMentus said:
I don't think that is true. But this is not the place to discuss such matters, take it to forum management. You'll get all the answers you need there.


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As I understand it, closing of threads and moving them out of sight is not something that can be appealed. As shown above, it was apparently alright for Elmondo to post his thoughts on Dick Oliver, but it was not alright for me to reply. So, I can only assume it's not alright to post about the Dick Oliver video in a way that calls attention to what the video actually shows, but it is alright to make claims about the video if done in the way that Elmondo did it.
 
jammonius said:
As I understand it, closing of threads and moving them out of sight is not something that can be appealed. As shown above, it was apparently alright for Elmondo to post his thoughts on Dick Oliver, but it was not alright for me to reply. So, I can only assume it's not alright to post about the Dick Oliver video in a way that calls attention to what the video actually shows, but it is alright to make claims about the video if done in the way that Elmondo did it.
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As I wrote above, take it to forum management. I'll gladly join you there and discuss it.


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Macgyver1968 said:
Who said we weren't? That thread was closed for incivility and insults...not content. We've had countless re-hash threads here...not that a new thread is needed...if it couldn't be said in 40 pages...I don't believe 40 more will uncover anything new.
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Well, I double checked for accuracy to see why the thread was closed and this is what I found:

"Despite several splits to other threads, and despite warnings to stick to the topic and to stay within the Membership Agreement or risk this entire thread being sent to AAH, the warnings were not heeded. Therefore, regrettably, the entire thread is being sent to AAH."

I'm not exactly sure what the above means to tell you the truth, Macgyver. How did you come to the conclusion that the thread was closed because of "incivility and insults...not content"?

It's just your "unconventional" (mom always said..be nice) way of thinking tends to bring out emotional responses from some.
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My way of thinking is not unconventional. My conclusions about what the evidence shows about 9/11 are of the variety that the common storyline of 9/11 is false. In connection with the Dick Oliver video, I said that the actions of the people in it are inconsistent with the claim a Boeing 767 at 500mph was 1000ft above them and two blocks west of them. I also said the sound in the video was consistent with the bus and subway traffic. Those claims are not the result of unconventional thinking; rather, they are the result of looking at and listening to the video.

Why do you think DEW has been discussed enough?
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I think DEW has been discussed enough because of the following statement made by you:

You gave us the alphabet soup of companies to investigate..I did a little investigating, and didn't see anything that points to space based energy weapons capable of turning steel to dust. In fact, I've found nothing about any energy that would be capable of such a thing..even in theory..much less practice.

You referred us to Dr. Judy's site...it's just a complete mess of disorganized hodge podge photos that she believes backs up her case..it make sense to her, but not to any else. She doesn't even answer the most basic questions about her theory.
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I have nothing more that I can add, given what you've said above other than I do not agree with what you've said.
 
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jammonius said:
As I understand it, closing of threads and moving them out of sight is not something that can be appealed. As shown above, it was apparently alright for Elmondo to post his thoughts on Dick Oliver, but it was not alright for me to reply. So, I can only assume it's not alright to post about the Dick Oliver video in a way that calls attention to what the video actually shows, but it is alright to make claims about the video if done in the way that Elmondo did it.
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Tell you what, If you can show that an airplane flying over head sounds anything like a bus or subway train I will personally appeal to the mods (and I think others will also) to reinstate that thread. Can you do this?

What you did in that thread is try to show that what everyone heard (including the person the thread was about) didn't hear what they thought they heard based on your personal opinion, nothing else. The whole thread was pointless from the get go.
 
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Note to mods: Since this is my thread, is it ok to allow the topic to change? or do I need to start a new thread?

jammonius said:
Well, I double checked for accuracy to see why the thread was closed and this is what I found:

"Despite several splits to other threads, and despite warnings to stick to the topic and to stay within the Membership Agreement or risk this entire thread being sent to AAH, the warnings were not heeded. Therefore, regrettably, the entire thread is being sent to AAH."

I'm not exactly sure what the above means to tell you the truth, Macgyver. How did you come to the conclusion that the thread was closed because of "incivility and insults...not content"?
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That was just my assumption. I can't read LashL's mind (boy..it sure would be cool if I could!) ...I assumed that's what she meant by "not staying with the MA". I could be wrong..wouldn't be the first time.

My way of thinking is not unconventional. My conclusions about what the evidence shows about 9/11 are of the variety that the common storyline of 9/11 is false. In connection with the Dick Oliver video, I said that the actions of the people in it are inconsistent with the claim a Boeing 767 at 500mph was 1000ft above them and two blocks west of them. I also said the sound in the video was consistent with the bus and subway traffic. Those claims are not the result of unconventional thinking; rather, they are the result of looking at and listening to the video.
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Of course you don't believe your thinking is unconventional..You believe you are correct, and the 30 or so people who responded to you are wrong. I just had a friend over. I played the video for him, and asked him what he thought the sound was. He said "your kidding...it was a plane". He's no "debunker"...just an average guy. Everyone else hears a plane...you do not. By definition..that is unconventional.

I think DEW has been discussed enough because of the following statement made by you:



I have nothing more that I can add, given what you've said above other than I do not agree with what you've said.
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I believe you are not willing to discuss DEW's because you know you can't answer the questions that will be asked of you. I.E. "What was the type of energy?"..."How much energy would be required?"...."How is this energy unknown to science..even in theory?"..."How the hell did anyone ever allow Yoko Ono to record an album?" (wait...that's a topic for another thread. :) )
 
Back to the OP?

Take a look at any of the truther fora (Loose Change, CIT, Fetzers 9/11Scholars etc) They are all tumbleweed depositories. Most truthers now have mass-migrated. 9/11 Truth is demoted and devalued to sub-fora at such pinnacles of intellectualism as davidicke.com, prison planet and ATS.

If there ever was a truther vs sceptic war all that's left is mopping-up.

Smells like victory. Someday this war's gonna end :-}


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I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello....hello hello!

jammonius said:
So, with that, take care and enjoy the other threads in the forum.

At present, there's nothing here for me and perhaps that is the way most of you want it to be.

Farewell then.
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jammonius said:
Farewell, one and all.
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alienentity said:
Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.

There - somebody had to say it. But did you really want him back?
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I think it was the Beetlejuice thing that did it.
 
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jammonius said:
As I understand it, closing of threads and moving them out of sight is not something that can be appealed. As shown above, it was apparently alright for Elmondo to post his thoughts on Dick Oliver, but it was not alright for me to reply. So, I can only assume it's not alright to post about the Dick Oliver video in a way that calls attention to what the video actually shows, but it is alright to make claims about the video if done in the way that Elmondo did it.
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You are off topic. The topic is missing truthers; do you need some help?

Your failed ideas are still posted in AAH... Copy them before they are pushed into the bit bucket...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171082

Out of sight? LOL. You can save all the pages where you expose your fantasy on 911 by going to the thread, http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171082http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172295, hit, "file", "save as" for each page. You can save your delusions on your own computer.

Do you think one reason truthers fade away is due to them gaining knowledge and they stop believing in delusions?
 
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