Million Dollar Challenge Material?

[kruse10]

Video No. 2

I made another video attempting to move a piece of paper this time. Let me know if you
think it is more or less convincing. It is also at photobucket.com/rich694

 

[RoboTimbo]

I made another video attempting to move a piece of paper this time. Let me know if you
think it is more or less convincing. It is also at photobucket.com/rich694

It is exactly as convincing as video #1 for exactly the same reasons. I take that back. It is less convincing because you had to ask if it looks more or less convincing. Not the question to ask if you believe you are turning the paper with paranormal means alone.

It's a good question to ask if you are trying to only simulate a paranormal event, though.

 

[Cavemonster]

I made another video attempting to move a piece of paper this time. Let me know if you
think it is more or less convincing. It is also at photobucket.com/rich694

You're silly

How about you move something you aren't touching? That would be a good start.

 

[Drudgewire]

I think the second one is more convincing, because:

I am holding a needle thats inside a foam ball. I am trying to move the ball with my mind. with my mind.

...you say "with my mind" twice and I'm a sucker for the power of suggestion.

 

[Ocelot]

Well it's convinced me of one thing, but probably not what you were hoping for.

 

[not daSkeptic]

I made another video attempting to move a piece of paper this time. Let me know if you
think it is more or less convincing. It is also at photobucket.com/rich694

I think the point you're missing is that, in order for your demonstrations to be convincing, you have to eliminate all explanations except for the one you are claiming. If you don't, there is no way to determine which explanation is the real one.

 

[Cavemonster]

I think the point you're missing is that, in order for your demonstrations to be convincing, you have to eliminate all explanations except for the one you are claiming. If you don't, there is no way to determine which explanation is the real one.

Minor correction, he only has to eliminate all those explanations that are simpler than the paranormal one.

For instance, "The CIA produced a mind altering substance which he sprays into the air to make people think the paper is moving" is an explanation, and a non-paranormal one too, but he doesn't have to eliminate it, just all the ones more prosaic than telekinesis.

 

[GzuzKryzt]

I made another video attempting to move a piece of paper this time. Let me know if you
think it is more or less convincing. It is also at photobucket.com/rich694

It convinces me that you do not have the ability you claim, since it has been explained to you - repeatedly - why the things you did in the first video were insufficient to prove you are indeed moving the object with your mind.

Likely conclusion: Ideomotor effect.
Another likely conclusion: You are trying to fool people.

Try to move something you are not touching.

Put the styrofoam ball in a jar. Shut the jar and place it on a table. Make sure the table stands firm on the ground and is substantial enough. Try to move the styrofoam ball in the glass without touching the table or the glass. Only use whatever ability you claim. You move the ball this way, you are on to something.

 

[jimtron]

It convinces me that you do not have the ability you claim, since it has been explained to you - repeatedly - why the things you did in the first video were insufficient to prove you are indeed moving the object with your mind.

Likely conclusion: Ideomotor effect.
Another likely conclusion: You are trying to fool people.

Try to move something you are not touching.

Put the styrofoam ball in a jar. Shut the jar and place it on a table. Make sure the table stands firm on the ground and is substantial enough. Try to move the styrofoam ball in the glass without touching the table or the glass. Only use whatever ability you claim. You move the ball this way, you are on to something.

Better yet put the jar on concrete or a similar surface that can't be easily rocked, moved, etc. (either intentionally or unintentionally).

 

[Jackalgirl]

Less convincing. Paper is even more susceptible to outside factors, such as (say) your breath, or heat. Plus, your hand is clearly moving.

Said it before and I will echo what everyone else is saying. Can you move the paper without touching the pin? Stick the pin into the table top, lean back so that you're at least three feet away from the table, and don't touch the table. Can you move it?

I'd appreciate a "yes, I can" or "no, I can't" answer, rather than another video of you holding a pin with some other item stuck to the top of it.

 

[jimtron]

Kruse10:

If you sincerely believe that you have a paranormal ability, let us know specifically what it is, and we can help you come up with a demonstration or help with the MDC. (Although the main points have already been addressed.) If you don't really believe that you have a paranormal ability, and are seeing if you can fool us or win the MDC through a trick, you're going to have to do much, much better than the videos you've linked to.

 

[siddhigyrl]

Nah, you can see his fingers rolling, especially in the first one.

Good grief, how does JREF wade through such dribble?

By the way, I can cause liquid to rise through a straw, using my mind. using my mind. but I must be able to touch my lips to the straw...

 

[Ron Swanson]

If your fingers are NOT moving the paper ... BUT you must be touching the pin for your mind to tranfer the "psycik energy" to the piece of paper ... repeat the test but super glue the pin to your fingers first.

And maybe (just to get the glue to stick better mind you) consider a scrub brush to clean them up a bit first

 

[IXP]

If your fingers are NOT moving the paper ... BUT you must be touching the pin for your mind to tranfer the "psycik energy" to the piece of paper ... repeat the test but super glue the pin to your fingers first.

And maybe (just to get the glue to stick better mind you) consider a scrub brush to clean them up a bit first

Not enough. Though the superglue would probably prevent motion of the fingers relative to each other, it would not prevent overall motion of the entire fiinger / superglue / pin system. I suggest clamping the fingers in a vise.

Bob

 

[RoboTimbo]

Not enough. Though the superglue would probably prevent motion of the fingers relative to each other, it would not prevent overall motion of the entire fiinger / superglue / pin system. I suggest clamping the fingers in a vise.

Bob

Must the fingers absolutely remain on the hand?

 

[petre]

My, aren't we in a sardonic mood today?

At the risk of sounding helpful, a demonstration with the pin clamped and just one finger touching would be more (though not entirely) convincing. If such is not possible, I wonder what theory or theories could describe the discrepancy.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

If your fingers are NOT moving the paper ... BUT you must be touching the pin for your mind to tranfer the "psycik energy" to the piece of paper ... repeat the test but super glue the pin to your fingers first.

Or easier, just keep rolling the video and twirl the paper or ball 20 full rotations (without your thumb ending up in the middle of your index finger).