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Microchips

Well maybe the system is newer in your area, it seems pretty well established here. But enough derailing.
 
Forgot to log in first so I had to screencap it.

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e: Just remembered Lisa's cat is named "Snowball." Oopsie. :o
 
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Recently our Govt made chipping dogs mandatory on the thoery it would stop dog attacks (not sure how unless you can press a button on a remote and tazer them.) Funny thing, we are still having dogs attacking people....
 
Lisa Simpson said:
Last night, my fine city (which recently passed an ordinance saying I can't be nekkid in my house with the drapes open)...
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Huh, and to think that in Ontario it's legal for a woman to walk around in public topless if she wants (not that many take advantage of that right).
 
didn't someone once say that it was the duty of all citizens to disobey stupid laws?
 
Lisa Simpson said:
I'm annoyed to be required to get them microchipped. My cats are already neutered, and they are completely indoor cats who don't escape very often. Stupid city government.
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You're annoyed, but you'll submit like the good little slave you are.
 
Funnily enough I'm currently working as a temp in the animal control section of the council for New Zealand's largest city where, as PhantomWolf mentioned, microchipping of new dogs has recently become compulsory as a 2003 amendment to the Dog Control Act 1996. All newly registered dogs must be microchipped (mainly puppies), and in addition any dogs classified as menacing by deed, any impounded unregistered dogs, and also any registered dog impounded twice must be microchipped. Working dogs (classified as dogs that are used to drive stock) are exempt. Four types of dog: American Pit Bull Terrier, Dogo Argentino, Brazilian Fila, and Japanese Tosa are classified as menacing by breed and are automatically classified as a menacing dog, and cannot be imported into the country or bred.

(There are other local laws for menacing and dangerous dog classifications, for example in Auckland any such classified dog must be muzzled in public).

This doesn't apply to cats, which don't need to be registered. Dogs are not required to be neutered unless classified as dangerous or menacing (incidentally as a result of this job a pet peeve of mine is people referring to spaying or neutering... spaying is how you neuter a female animal, castrating is the term for neutering a male animal), however most councils offer incentives for neutering such as lower registration fees.

Anyway, the purpose of microchipping is for identity tracking, as is dog registration. Auckland City, unlike some other NZ councils, has taken a very aggressive approach to dog registration, with a result of 100% of all known dogs registered last year (including dogs owned by homeless people and criminals). Incidents of "dog aggression" have fallen in all categories over the last few years (categories including dog-dog attacks, dog-animal attacks, dog-human attacks, and what's called "challenging a human").

The short answer is registering and microchipping dogs seems to reduce dog attacks, at least here, primarily because it forces owners to be more responsible.

On the matter of microchipping humans, a friend of mine has a microchip implanted in his hand which he uses instead of a key to unlock his car and start it. Frankly I think that's seriously cool, and am very jealous. I wouldn't mind having my cashflow card, credit card, and ID all rolled into one neat chip in my hand. Carrying a wallet around can be a pain in the ass, and then you lose it and have to cancel all your cards.

Statistically, per population, incidents of serious aggression from people is much lower than from dogs, and there is already a system in place for dealing with people, called the judiciary system. I can see a time in which serious criminals are microchipped, and indeed isn't there already some sort of thing like that in place in parts of the USA?

But as for the general populace? I can't see any logical reason for it.

-Gumboot
 
I wouldn't mind having my cashflow card, credit card, and ID all rolled into one neat chip in my hand. Carrying a wallet around can be a pain in the ass, and then you lose it and have to cancel all your cards.
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Imagine a typical mugging sometime in the future when there are no more wallets.

Mugger to the muggee:
"Give me yo' hand, mutha' #%$^@%"
 
So if you don't get your cats chipped, and they wander off, the authorities won't know they're your cats, so you'll avoid being punished for not chipping them!

Win-win.
 
My dog is chipped. Came that way from the local animal shelter. $95 included a chip, spaying, free vet visit, 5lbs of dog food, and a leash.

Number of times my dog's been scanned: 0. The vet doesn't have a reader.

It must be because the NWO is spying on me!!! That's not an ID chip! It's a microphone!
 
Tippit said:
You're annoyed, but you'll submit like the good little slave you are.
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For a "Liberal" state, California can sure seem Authoritative...

Sure you can be an illegal alien off the grid, dodging taxes, using someone else's SS#... But don't you DARE throw that plastic bottle in the trash!
 
Lisa Simpson said:
There's a necessity for micro-chipping? I will agree 100% on the necessity to spay and neuter but how many shelters have microchip scanners? The county animal shelter has one, but the local (city) shelter doesn't. So what's the point? My cat would only be returned to me if he were lucky enough to be caught by the county and not the city.
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I'm surprised to hear your local shelter doesn't have a scanner, in the UK the readers are ubiquitous so it's a very sensible decisions to get your cat (or dog) micro-chipped. However it is totally voluntary and I struggle to understand the rationality behind this legalisation. What is the benefit to society of forcing everyone to do this? Plus of course how do you enforce it?
 
SpaceMonkeyZero said:
My dog is chipped. Came that way from the local animal shelter. $95 included a chip, spaying, free vet visit, 5lbs of dog food, and a leash.

Number of times my dog's been scanned: 0. The vet doesn't have a reader.

It must be because the NWO is spying on me!!! That's not an ID chip! It's a microphone!
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That's an interesting theory you've got there.

Could you say it a little louder, perhaps? Speak into the dog now.
 
The local shelter is not a government agency, it's a charity group, so I doubt they have the money to buy a scanner.

Before this came about, I was thinking of microchipping at least one of my cats (he's the only one who regularly tries to escape) but I dislike the idea that I have to do it. Out of 6 City Council Members, 3 voted for it and 3 against it. I would think a tie would go with the nays, but apparently, it isn't so.
 
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