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McCain vs Obama

DevilsAdvocate

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If McCain had won the presidential election in 2008, what would be different now?

What would be the differences in the health care bill? What would be the differences in the current economy? What other differences would there be? :confused:
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
If McCain had won the presidential election in 2008, what would be different now?

What would be the differences in the health care bill?
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We would have more of what we had before. The rich get treated on demand and the poor might, if they are lucky enough to live in a state where people know what "civilization" is.

What would be the differences in the current economy?
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The fat class would own more of everything and we would all be looking for jobs.

What other differences would there be? :confused:
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The rich would get their permanent tax cuts and the Army would be massing at the Iranian border to prepare for another 9 years of deep doo-doo.
 
The health care bill we actually got is more similar to McCain's idea than Obama's, which cheeses me off given it's why I voted the way I did.

Obama hasn't done much on the economy that wasn't already in motion before he took office, and he's going to renew the Bush tax-cuts, just like McCain would. So, not much difference there.

We'd probably be slower in withdrawing from Iraq, but Obama hasn't issued an order ending DADT, he hasn't fixed the "enemy combatant" ******** that Guantanamo symbolizes (or Guantanamo for that matter), and off the top of my head I can't think of an actual issue he's acted on that McCain would have done differently.

Give me a strong primary candidate against Obama in 2012 and I'll vote for him/her.

eta:But hey! Despite being indistinguishable from their canditate on the issues, the Republicans tell me he's a far-left socialist, so I guess I got the candidate I really wanted after-all. Hey, and I didn't even think one was running at the time.
 
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leftysergeant said:
We would have more of what we had before. The rich get treated on demand and the poor might, if they are lucky enough to live in a state where people know what "civilization" is.
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Please give specfics of how this would have been the case for a McCain administraion instead of an Obama administraion.

leftysergeant said:
The fat class would own more of everything and we would all be looking for jobs.
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Please give specfics of how this would have been the case for a McCain administraion instead of an Obama administraion.

leftysergeant said:
The rich would get their permanent tax cuts
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You don't think they will under Obama?

leftysergeant said:
and the Army would be massing at the Iranian border to prepare for another 9 years of deep doo-doo.
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Perhaps. McCain probably would not have done the withdrawal from Iraq that Obama has done. I doubt McCain would have gone after Iran more aggressively than Bush, so I doubt McCain would have built up on the Iran border.
 
So far we have:

1) supreme court appointments.
2) number of troops in Iraq.

Surely with all this hullabaloo about the greatness or evilness of Obama and/or McCain and a Democrat or Republican president that there would be vastly more differences in the country and our personal lives than just those. What else would be different if McCain were president?
 
We can compare Obama's healthcare plan to McCain's and say "well, they're pretty much the same."

This, of course, assumes that McCain would have pushed Congress into passing a UHC-esque measure...
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
If McCain had won the presidential election in 2008, what would be different now?
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It really depends on whether or not McCain would remain Presidential Candidate McCain or returned to being the Senator McCain that he was before running. Those were two entirely different people.

Although, to lefty's point, I (still) absolutely shutter at the thought of "Vice President Palin". brrr.... Dodged a bullet there.
 
Would McCain's economic advisers have pushed a program like Cash for Clunkers or done anything else to support the auto industry?

Without active intervention, Ford would be the only surviving US auto manufacturer and unemployment would top 10%.
 
Upchurch said:
It really depends on whether or not McCain would remain Presidential Candidate McCain or returned to being the Senator McCain that he was before running. Those were two entirely different people.
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McCain has not been "Senator" McCain since around 2001. Since then he has been "Presidential Candidate" McCain. No maverick. More classic politician.

You know, I used to believe in this "Saint McCain" business back in the time of Bush's first election. Frankly, looking back I am not sure what I was buying. McCain is more of an opportunist than a maverick. Sorry, that is how I see it.
 
Lurker said:
McCain is more of an opportunist than a maverick. Sorry, that is how I see it.
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Aww, you're just saying that because he left his sick wife and married his rich mistress and has been living off her fortune and running for office on it ever since. That's not opportunistic, that's decent work for decent Americans, morals, etc, etc.
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
If McCain had won the presidential election in 2008, what would be different now?

What would be the differences in the health care bill? What would be the differences in the current economy? What other differences would there be? :confused:
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I expect that if McCain had won the election, then McCain would have died by June, 2009. And as such, we would have a President Palin and therefore things would be quite different from their current state (for starters, there would be no Health Care Bill due to fear of the "Death Panels").
 
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