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Mary Trump's Book

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It seems like it ought to be thread-worthy.


The big takeaway from today's releases, that I noticed.

According to the book, Donald Trump paid someone to take the SAT test for him. She names a name. No word on whether the alleged test-taker is still alive or available for confirmation.

Mary think's he's pretty much a nutcase with learning disabilities. So, that seems pretty accurate.

Mary says he was an abused child and that the abuse pretty much left him scarred for life.

Mary includes a lot of family gossip, especially of the form, "Donald is an idiot."

Reviewers said they were reading advance copies, so, there's pretty much no hope of Donald keeping this out of the public's hands, with or without lawsuits. The horses have left the barn.


It must be difficult to be a book publisher these days. The "good parts" will already be known long before they are able to sell it. Before the "tell all" book is published, it will already be told.
 
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Meadmaker said:
Reviewers said they were reading advance copies, so, there's pretty much no hope of Donald keeping this out of the public's hands, with or without lawsuits. The horses have left the barn.
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And they left the barn early due to Trump's attempts to stop the book, I've heard.

I'll probably get it on Audible eventually. Don't know how much of an impact it's going to have.


According to the book, Donald Trump paid someone to take the SAT test for him.
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Totally believable.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
And they left the barn early due to Trump's attempts to stop the book, I've heard.

I'll probably get it on Audible eventually. Don't know how much of an impact it's going to have.


Totally believable.
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The cool thing about the SAT story is that, even though it's fifty years old, it's something that people can relate to. They might have trouble thinking about bankrupt casinos, or tough decisions in the situation room, or being wealthy enough that porn stars will spank you just because they want something from you, but they can relate to the SAT, and they can know that the smart people didn't have to pay someone to take the test for them.

Allegedly, of course.
 
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It must be difficult to be a book publisher these days. The "good parts" will already be known long before they are able to sell it. Before the "tell all" book is published, it will already be told.
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Doesn't seem to have hurt Bolton's book sales.
 
Meadmaker said:
It must be difficult to be a book publisher these days. The "good parts" will already be known long before they are able to sell it. Before the "tell all" book is published, it will already be told.
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Doesn't seem to have hurt Bolton's book sales.
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It's more likely than not the publisher sent the ARCs (Advanced Reading Copies) around to promote the book.
 
The SAT take is named Joe Shapiro, the late husband of former tennis player Pam Shriver. He died in 1999
 
I can certainly relate to the sociopath description, having befriended one in the town where I studied. They mostly have zero concern for the feelings or needs of others (my friend did appear to have moments where she exhibited empathy, but it seemed to mostly/only be when others experienced things she herself found difficult -- if something was easy for her, she seemed to expect it to be easy for everyone else as well), and a very domineering and cold attitude.

She, too, had this attitude of getting frustrated with people for not doing things right, or not understanding things right away.
 
Meadmaker said:
It seems like it ought to be thread-worthy.


The big takeaway from today's releases, that I noticed.

According to the book, Donald Trump paid someone to take the SAT test for him. She names a name. No word on whether the alleged test-taker is still alive or available for confirmation.

Mary think's he's pretty much a nutcase with learning disabilities. So, that seems pretty accurate.

Mary says he was an abused child and that the abuse pretty much left him scarred for life.
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It should be noted that she's a clinical psychologist and assesses Trump from that perspective. This isn't a celebrity tell-all.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/us/politics/mary-trump-book.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ing-portrait-of-president-in-book/ar-BB16rMZm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...know-about-the-presidents-niece/#5309d1ea474e
 
Bob001 said:
It should be noted that she's a clinical psychologist and assesses Trump from that perspective. This isn't a celebrity tell-all.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/us/politics/mary-trump-book.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ing-portrait-of-president-in-book/ar-BB16rMZm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...know-about-the-presidents-niece/#5309d1ea474e
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Well, it's a celebrity's relative tell all, who happens to be a clinical psychologist.

This is going to be seen by a lot of people as a relative trying to cash in on the family connection. Undoubtedly, it is that. The question is whether it will be seen as true, and whether the negative effect of the book will be outweighed by the backlash of support. It's so difficult to foresee how the electorate, collectively, will react. Mary Trump will undoubtedly be all over the media in the near future. If she is perceived negatively, Trump could be helped.

I have a feeling that it will hurt Trump at the polls. Of course, his base will be unmoved. However, if just a few are swayed, a close election could be swayed.

Here's my greatest fear. There's nothing really new in the book that I saw, except the SAT thing, and that's 50 years old. Will that influence voters? I hope, but I couldn't count on it.

Meanwhile, there will be a lot of stories that are "SHOCKING REVELATIONS..." stories. Unless there really are shocking revelations, people will read the stories, be unimpressed, and it will feed "the liberal media is out to get Donald Trump" narrative. That narrative, I know, gets a lot of sympathy from people that do not just include his hard core supporters.

A lot of the book seems to be, "Trump is a mentally ill moron." Well, yeah. You can read that here before the book was published, and it's true, but that hasn't seemed to have mattered in the past. Maybe multiple repetitions from multiple sources will do the trick.

We'll see. The book is young. Sometimes it's odd what sticks in these stories, and of course The Donald has an opportunity to tweet about it, and he might end up saying something stupid. Wait, correct that. What I mean is that when he says something stupid, it might be something that swing voters will hold against him. We know he will say something stupid, but he has been saying stupid for a long time and until the virus came along, it looked, to me, like he was going to carry the election.
 
Teddy Mentiroso Kennedy had someone take his Spanish test at Harvard, but you never hear liberals never talk about that!
 
Wait, he hired Shapiro to take the SAT for him, and promised to pay? That much is totally believable.

But that he actually coffed up rather than stiff the guy -- THAT I find a bit hard to believe.
 
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My guess it will have little impact on the election. His supporters will dismiss it and opponents will agree.
 
seayakin said:
My guess it will have little impact on the election. His supporters will dismiss it and opponents will agree.
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If everyone were an opponent or a supporter, there would be no need to wait for November for the election. The question is whether it will sway anyone who is not firmly in either camp.

And the answer is, I don't have a clue. I'm inclined to think it will hurt a little bit, and every little bit helps.
 
This story if false on the left's own terms: If the SAT measures socio-economic status rather than ability, why would Trump pay someone from a more humble background to take it?
 
Meadmaker said:
It seems like it ought to be thread-worthy.


The big takeaway from today's releases, that I noticed.

According to the book, Donald Trump paid someone to take the SAT test for him. She names a name. No word on whether the alleged test-taker is still alive or available for confirmation.

Mary think's he's pretty much a nutcase with learning disabilities. So, that seems pretty accurate.

Mary says he was an abused child and that the abuse pretty much left him scarred for life.

Mary includes a lot of family gossip, especially of the form, "Donald is an idiot."

Reviewers said they were reading advance copies, so, there's pretty much no hope of Donald keeping this out of the public's hands, with or without lawsuits. The horses have left the barn.


It must be difficult to be a book publisher these days. The "good parts" will already be known long before they are able to sell it. Before the "tell all" book is published, it will already be told.
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I've said for a long time that he has a reading comprehension problem. That he would hire someone to take the SAT for him does not surprise me at all. What would be interesting would be to compare 'his' SAT score to his actual grades.
 
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