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Mark's Interview with Ron

Good interview, informative and very well conducted! Thanks guys.
 
pomeroo said:
Back in high school, a friend of mine raffled off a ham--two bits for a ticket. He pocketed about twelve bucks, then announced the winning number. The guy with the matching ticket asked for his ham. My friend informed him that there was no ham. The guy developed what ballplayers delicately describe as the "red ass", but my friend calmed him down and provided the proper perspective. He explained: "This was a game of chance. You took a chance and lost."
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That sounds very suspiciously like an incident Jim Bouton wrote about in Ball Four (right down to the exact same punch line, virtually word-for-word). Not saying it didn't happen (maybe your friend got the idea from the book), just sayin'.
 
Stellafane said:
That sounds very suspiciously like an incident Jim Bouton wrote about in Ball Four (right down to the exact same punch line, virtually word-for-word). Not saying it didn't happen (maybe your friend got the idea from the book), just sayin'.
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You win the prize (and it isn't a ham)! It IS the incident from Ball Four. Here's the whole story.

The friend, who really exists (I certainly hope he still does), actually attempted to raffle off an imaginary ham and managed to con a few guys out of their quarters. He told me about the Mickey Mantle story from Bouton's book, which I had not yet read. I cautioned him against perpetrating this swindle, having in mind his size relative to the size of the people he was targeting. He saw the light and returned the quarters. One of his intended victims assured him that if he had held the winning number, he would have gotten a ham, one way or another. It had an ominous ring.

For the sake of complete accuracy, I should mention that I was attending Queens College when this incident took place. The friend was the editor of the "Culture" section of the campus newspaper, "The Phoenix," and had achieved a certain degree of notoriety for managing to publish a photo of nude girls frolicking in muddy water at Woodstock. Jay went on to a career in jornalism, worked at the now-defunct "Long Island Press" for a while, and eventually left New York. A freaky, funny guy who wore tie-dyed tee shirts and beads and used to challenge me to White Castle burger-eating contests, he left some good memories. I miss being young.

When Enigma asked about his prize, my first thought was, What prize? Immediately, the Bouton story and Jay's attempt to replicate it came to mind. I was wondering if anyone would recognize it.
 
I think it might have already been said, but when is the other episode to be released?
 
qarnos said:
I clicked your avatar - now where's my Playstation 2?

If I don't get it soon you can have your stinkin' Christ back.
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Moses is delivering it. Seeing how legend has him taking 40 years to deliver God's Chosen ones to Israel, you might wanna get another hobby to pass the time
 
Gravy said:
As soon as we stop laughing.
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The last guy that called in during the live show, that was brilliant, I didn't think you could have gotten a better example of an extreme twoofer than that guy. As I told Ron, I am voting for Exxon-Mobile for in the 08 presidency!
 
Rewatching it again for the bits I missed. Terrific show (of course too short).

It seems I had missed alot in the beginning, and I find it a very good introduction for people who aren't aware of these CTs.

ETA: just realized that this is not the live show, no wonder I had missed alot. :D
 
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Very good show.
Thanks to both of you gentlemen!

I think the show was slower paced than most hardfire shows, although for those less versed in the 9/11 CT's i'm sure it was easier to follow.

What's funny is now the truthers can finally answer Mark's looming question:
Name one thing i got wrong..
Schroeder's engine number!
Hey, just maybe this man might not have a CIA implanted 'brain' and 'memory' after all.

Either that or Gravy was bonging hard on chemtrails before the show.
Great Scott, Marty!
 
Alt+F4 said:
Ron, did you try to get John Schoeder as a guest?
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I don't think that would be a particularly good idea. John is a guy who risked his life on 9/11 to help others and is now having troubles trying to come to terms with the events of that day.

He is not a play-thing for skeptics and troofers to pull at in a tug-o-war to try and "win" his support. Let's not descend to their level.

My 2c.
 
qarnos said:
I don't think that would be a particularly good idea. John is a guy who risked his life on 9/11 to help others and is now having troubles trying to come to terms with the events of that day.

He is not a play-thing for skeptics and troofers to pull at in a tug-o-war to try and "win" his support. Let's not descend to their level.

My 2c.
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Maybe, maybe not, but that should be something for him to decide. I know several members of the FDNY (including my brother-in-law) who were there that day. Some feel talking about it is cathartic, other won't talk about it all. Everyone deals with grief and stress differently.
 
Too short- otherwise terrific show.

I think there's plenty of material for a series of short shows like this... "An evening with Gravy" if you like...
 
Totovader said:
Too short- otherwise terrific show.

I think there's plenty of material for a series of short shows like this... "An evening with Gravy" if you like...
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You're right there. It could make for many hours of fascinating interview.
 
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