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Make Donald DRUMPF again!!!

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Tonight on John Oliver's HBO Show he announced a new campaign based on the Trump family's real family name -which was changed for some odd reason a few generations back. The campaign is simple it's goal is to let people know what it is and push Trump to use the real family name or explain why he won't.

The real family name was Drumpf, the campaign is through the show (look up John Oliver HBO and you should get to the info.

I'll be back with an update but did not want to hold back on this great idea!!!!:):D:):D:thumbsup:
 
Agreed.

Either I am missing something or this is the stupidest thing John Oliver has ever done.

The gist of it is, Trump once insulted Jon Stewart by saying he should have been proud of his heritage & gone by Jon Leibowitz instead of using a stage name and that people would be less likely to accept the antics Trump is getting away with from someone named Donald Drumpf.

 
The gist of it is, Trump once insulted Jon Stewart by saying he should have been proud of his heritage & gone by Jon Leibowitz instead of using a stage name and that people would be less likely to accept the antics Trump is getting away with from someone named Donald Drumpf.


Every criticism he made is valid. He has laid out an argument that would lead any objective and rational person away from Donald's campaign. He has provided documented evidence of the danger and absurdity of electing this professional BS artist. And he has done all that in a succinct and humorous way.

But arguing for the name-reversal is a waste of time and energy. It will be child's play for Trump to brush this aside. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump gains new followers as he dismisses this name-change drive.
 
If Trump wins, I'm going to invest in a comedy club. It's going to be a bull market for 8 years.
 
Every criticism he made is valid. He has laid out an argument that would lead any objective and rational person away from Donald's campaign. He has provided documented evidence of the danger and absurdity of electing this professional BS artist. And he has done all that in a succinct and humorous way.

But arguing for the name-reversal is a waste of time and energy. It will be child's play for Trump to brush this aside. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump gains new followers as he dismisses this name-change drive.

It's a joke.
 
It's a joke.

Which is exactly what I was thinking. I looked at it as pointing out more of Trump's hypocrisy. I think maybe this is being looked into a bit more than it needs to be. It's a good joke, and a funny last name, and the slogan is good for a hoot.
 
If Trump wins, I'm going to invest in a comedy club. It's going to be a bull market for 8 years.

[Puts on Profession Comic Hat (the one in my picture)] Well, no. This is a common misconception about the ease of making comedy. The idea is that the dumber or more absurd something already is, the easier it is to mock. Mockery isn't always funny though. The practical issue is, how do you mock Trump or his ideas more then they already are?

[Puts mortarboard over top of Comic Hat]

See, comedy isn't simply something stupid. Ideally comedy is a little bit wrong and a little bit right. One of the most basic forms is 'shattered expectations'. What are the expectations from Trump, his statements, and his ideas? How does one shatter them? We can look at Bush and his administration and highlight the wrong in it. The expectation is that they were saying and doing things to reflect how they believed reality behaves and should behave. Even when they were lying, they were doing so for outcomes. Even when they weren't trying to lie, weren't aware of it, basically lying to themselves, there was still juxtaposition to be revealed. There were a lot of funny ways to point out the contradictions and how the expectations they made didn't line up. They were trying to be right, and pointing out how they were kinda wrong or kinda right in a way they didn't think of left people with the unexpected. Breaking people's anticipation of what will happen next based on the logic laid out, or by breaking what they anticipate a line of logic to be employed on, creates humor. Bush was trying in good faith to reflect reality.

Trump doesn't exist in good faith. He's not trying to use logic or reasoning to accurately reflect reality or ideology. It isn't even that he doesn't care if he's lying; lying is simply irrelevant to what he's trying to do. There is no 'correct'. There is no anticipated next. There is no expectation. All that matters is that Trump is win double plus good. The reasoning doesn't matter, nor do the words, nor the logic. It's already all absurd and to get mileage from it one would have to get his reasoning to make sense, but reasoning doesn't matter in the least. It will change the next statement.

Contrary to what many think, totally random isn't funny. It has to make a kind of a sense on some level. It has to be a little be right and wrong.

Lewis Black level of reaction to Trump's antics can be funny, but it's the reasoning, anticipation, and reaction to the performer's reasoning and actions that's the comedy there.

tl;dr You can't make fun of Trump more than reality does already.
 
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Every criticism he made is valid. He has laid out an argument that would lead any objective and rational person away from Donald's campaign. He has provided documented evidence of the danger and absurdity of electing this professional BS artist. And he has done all that in a succinct and humorous way.

But arguing for the name-reversal is a waste of time and energy. It will be child's play for Trump to brush this aside. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump gains new followers as he dismisses this name-change drive.

This is true. Every attempt to gotcha or call out his campaign seems to run into the "when you wrestle with pig..." problem. IMO he correctly stated the strength of his campaign when he said he could murder someone and it wouldn't hurt his campaign. It's a bizarre cult of personality.
 
I'm trying out the Drumpf Chrome extension now. It generally works pretty well, but makes this thread very confusing to read.
 
All the Drumpf stuff aside, the rest of Oliver's ~20 minute piece was a masterful takedown, and involved better journalism than anything from the cable news networks.
 

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