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Magnetic generator

"In the beginning, only a touch of energy is necessary to start the generator and then from there on...you have perpetual electricity."
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Woo.

Second Thermodynamic Law violation. Perpetual energy may not be generated in a closed system.
 
:)Magnetic generators are the best kind.

I remember a science fiction story by Sheckley, "The Free Producer"*, which caused a few problems.

It looks like the only way you can buy this stuff is by "donating" using Pay Pal, etc. Ya just gotta love it.

ETA: *Check that, the short story is "The Laxian Key" by Robert Sheckley. I believe it was in the book of stories The People Trap.
Despite not knowing what the machine produces, Arnold turns it on, only to discover that all it produces is a worthless gray powder, called Tangreese. And when he finds out that there is no off switch, and the only way is to stop it from churning out the powder until the end of time is to find the Laxian Key. It is as witty as anything written by Mark Twain, and biting satirical, Sheckley's shaggy dog story of the ne'er-do -well Arnold and his long suffering partner Gregor also packs a moral punch too: Don't meddle with what you don't understand.
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Interesting to play and experiment with but hardly an over unity device. Needs a lot more work before you could get any useful amount of power out of it(if ever).
 
If it worked, this'd be how they'd generate electricity commercially.

It's a scam.
 
There is a video on this page purporting to show the device running and generating 24 kw. Of course, it runs on free energy, which means you need only to kick start it with a battery, and it runs forever generating electricity for your whole house.:D OH, boy.

The video is quite honestly hilarious. It reminds me of so many con men we have all seen peddling the same kind of stuff. OK, they plan to be ready to market this thing in a year, for $5,000 (from when? the only date I could find was 2009.) But they are selling the plans for $49, Free Power Blueprint, and they have plenty of testimonials from guys who have built it and are saving lots on their power bill.;)

There is a 100% warranty, which is a hoot to read, and I just happened to click on "disclaimer", at the bottom of the page. This is very interesting, since it pretty much says they have no responsibility concerning anything that is claimed about the product. It seems to say that their product does not work, and you cannot sue them if you find this out. If you still really want to sue, you have to present your case, in the proper location (are you ready for this?):

You agree that any legal action or proceeding between Free Power Blueprint and you for any purpose concerning this Agreement or the parties' obligations hereunder shall be brought exclusively in a federal or state court of competent jurisdiction sitting in Republic of Macedonia .

I guess I shouldn't find this stuff funny, but I confess that I do. The old guy spends his whole life going after free energy, and just can't get it to work, so he goes for the con instead. Oh, it's a scam for sure.
 
Fnord said:
Woo.
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who? You?
Second Thermodynamic Law violation.
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such is life


Perpetual energy may not be generated in a closed system.
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no closed system anywhere in the universe. Well, unless you close your eyes!


ie.... if you cannot represent how the generator works or fails and simply claiming "Second Thermodynamic Law violation.", then it seems you are just tapping the keys on your computer. NOW, that is the best description of 'woo'!
 
NOW, that is the best description of 'woo'!
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Nope, not by a long shot.
"Woo" is harboring a belief that "free energy" devices are in principle possible, stating as much on a skeptical forum with no supporting evidence, seeing a website with perpetual motion machine plans for sale, and not acting on such beliefs by sending off one's $49 to investigate. Now that's woo.
 
This sure sounds like it violates some fraud law or another. Is there a lawyer in the house?
 
It would make a lovely ornament for the mantle shelf,and he may get it to work in time.
 
likelystory said:
It would make a lovely ornament for the mantle shelf,and he may get it to work in time.
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Hey likelystory, are you coming back to your thread to answer the many questions you never answered about your amazing new VAWT design?

Or have you given up on that and are you now turning to others' equally impossible inventions?
 
Snake oil is a weird metaphor.

Real snake oil is a major hassle to obtain, much less market.
 
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