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Logical? Deism.

Franko said:


Yeah, but I’ve told you time and time again, I’m not here to convert people to Logical Deism. I’m here on this forum to demonstrate what a non-skeptical bunch of religious fanatics A-Theists are.

Any person (A-Theist or otherwise) who can’t see and concede that fact, certainly isn’t ready for LD.

What is your evidence for the existence of “free will”?
CWL, brainwashed A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe in “free will” anyway!

What is your evidence for the non-existence of “god”?
CWL, brainwashed A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe there is NO “god”, and anyone who believes otherwise is a credulous Theist moron!

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What is your evidence for the non-existence of “free will”?
Franko, Logical Deist: Atoms obey TLOP; You are made of Atoms; YOU OBEY TLOP!

What is your evidence for the existence of “god”?
Franko, Logical Deist: TLOP (“god”) makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR.
In the same way that YOU are more conscious then a CAR, TLOP is more conscious then YOU.
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I can see that the Franko character has reset. Too bad. I thought this particular game of BOBS was getting interesting.
 
Still no evidence for your beliefs A-Theist Troll?

I don't mind pointing it out over and over again that after 30+ years of your life dedicated to the Religion of A-Theism you still don't have a scrap of evidence for your beliefs.

Not one scrap. Pathetic cynical old man ... :(
 
CWL,

If you want to keep demonstrating your religious fanaticism, and the fact that you have no evidence for any of the things you believe, I will be more than happy to assist you.

What is your evidence for the existence of “free will”?
CWL, brainwashed A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe in “free will” anyway!

What is your evidence for the non-existence of “god”?
CWL, brainwashed A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe there is NO “god”, and anyone who believes otherwise is a credulous Theist moron!

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What is your evidence for the non-existence of “free will”?
Franko, Logical Deist: Atoms obey TLOP; You are made of Atoms; YOU OBEY TLOP!

What is your evidence for the existence of “god”?
Franko, Logical Deist: TLOP (“god”) makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR.
In the same way that YOU are more conscious then a CAR, TLOP is more conscious then YOU.
 
We all know you can cut-and-paste just fine Franko. You have demonstrated this ability on numerous occasions allready.

Why don't you try engaging in some intelligent debate instead?

Oh... I forgot... you are not here for that purpose... You are here to behave like a child.

Originally posted by Franko
I’m here on this forum to demonstrate what a non-skeptical bunch of religious fanatics A-Theists are.
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Q.E.D.
 
Franko said:
Still no evidence for your beliefs A-Theist Troll?

I don't mind pointing it out over and over again that after 30+ years of your life dedicated to the Religion of A-Theism you still don't have a scrap of evidence for your beliefs.

Not one scrap. Pathetic cynical old man ... :(
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Okay, Franko. I will make a concession. I will agree that YOU do not have free will. Your inability to make an original post and your constant repetition make Pavlov's dog look like a chess master. However, the overwhelming evidence of other people making decisions every day tends to suggest that free will is an observable phenomenon. It is a pity you can't join in. That Goddess certainly does treat her diciples cruelly. Maybe if you grovel and debase yourself before her, she will allow a tiny bit of free will long enough to answer one question.

Do gravitons obey the laws of physics?
 
Tricky A-Theist:
I will make a concession. I will agree that YOU do not have free will. Your inability to make an original post and your constant repetition make Pavlov's dog look like a chess master. However, the overwhelming evidence of other people making decisions every day tends to suggest that free will is an observable phenomenon. It is a pity you can't join in. That Goddess certainly does treat her diciples cruelly. Maybe if you grovel and debase yourself before her, she will allow a tiny bit of free will long enough to answer one question.
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Actually if Solipsism were True, then YOU would have “free will”, of course since me and everyone else would just be figments of your imagination, we wouldn’t have “free will”, all of our actions would be preordained.

So maybe that’s exactly what’s happening? You seem to be claiming that the evidence indicates it is the case?

Do gravitons obey the laws of physics?
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Well as far as I know, Gravity is One of the 4 fundamental forces of Physics, so I would say that since Gravity is a part of the laws of Physics, Gravity it is covered by the laws of Physics.

Why Trixy, are you and CWL claiming that Gravity does not obey TLOP now? :rolleyes:
 
Franko said:


Well as far as I know, Gravity is One of the 4 fundamental forces of Physics, so I would say that since Gravity is a part of the laws of Physics, Gravity it is covered by the laws of Physics.

Why Trixy, are you and CWL claiming that Gravity does not obey TLOP now? :rolleyes:
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I didn't say gravity, I said gravitons. Specifically your definition of gravitons, the kind with charge and spin. Do they obey the laws of physics?
 
Franko said:
Then Trixy (desperate to change the subject from the stunning and utter lack of evidence for the Religion of A-Theism) sputtered …
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One only need to look back two posts to see that I specifically asked about gravitons, but you accuse me of trying to change the subject. Your evasion is so transparent. You have been caught in a lie (once again) and resort to your Form Insult.

I'm sure everyone is terribly impressed by your ability to start calling names when you have painted yourself into the corner of the hole you have dug for yourself. How.... mature.
 
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Franko said:
This universe is part of an omniverse.
True

This universe was created by the Logical Goddess (LG), who also created all the forces except gravity.
True

The Logical Goddess controls everything in this universe, but she is in turn controlled by "Fate".
False (this one is just worded poorly)

One soul = one graviton.
True

Gravitons come from outside this universe

Sort of … You really have to think of all things in terms of the Omniverse, this universe is within (inside) the Omniverse, so being “outside” of this universe, still leaves you inside the Omniverse. Essentially it is impossible for anything to be outside the Omniverse though.

The Logical goddess is the "top graviton".
True (that is the same as saying the LG is Omnipotent)

The gender of a graviton is determined by its spin.
True

Gravitons are inherantly either good or evil. The evil ones will burn for eternity.

Gravitons are intrinsically Good or Evil. That is true. Good Gravitons will move forward in Time (to a higher energy state), Evil Gravitons will move backwards in Time (to a lower energy state). From the POV of someone in a higher energy state, this Universe is “Hell”, and the state below this universe is even worse. But I am not talking about the Christian version of “hell” by ANY stretch of the imagination.

There is no free will. Not libertarian free will. Not compatiblist free will. None.
True

There are consequences for the things you do.
Obviously True

The things you do are the result of Maximum Perceived Benefit (MPB). This is not the same as free will.
True

You will be punished if your MPB causes you to do the wrong things.
True

The LG created The Laws Of Physics (TLOP), except for gravity.
True (Electro-magnetism, weak nuclear, strong nuclear are her babies)

The LG is the most conscious and complex entity in the universe.
True

TLOP are also conscious and complex.
False (technically)

TLOP is kind of the expression of the LG. The LG Herself is more analogous to the Initial State, but from your POV or mine, She is just a Gorgeous, Fabulous Babe.

TLOP created humans (except for the soul/graviton, which comes from outside the universe).
False (The LG is responsible for the shape and form of your bodies, but She didn’t create YOU. You are your Soul [your Graviton]. Your body is more analogous to the clothes you wear.

TLOP are more conscious and complex than humans.
Sorta True (badly worded)

The Logical Goddess is more complex than You or I, ergo She is a Superior Entity. In other words, God is more powerful and smarter than YOU are.

Everything in the universe is deterministic, including Quantum Mechanics.
True

The only other alternative being Magic. [/B]
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Trixy (fanatical A-Theist [30+ years])

If you have some evidence for your religious beliefs, I will be more than happy to discuss it with you. But for over a YEAR NOW you keep spouting of the same dogmatic nonsense, day after day. If this is all the evidence you have to support your beliefs after devouting 30+ years of your life to the cult of A-Theism, that should tell you something.

Franko previously said:
Well as far as I know, Gravity is One of the 4 fundamental forces of Physics, so I would say that since Gravity is a part of the laws of Physics, Gravity it is covered by the laws of Physics.
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Then Trixy (desperate to change the subject from the stunning and utter lack of evidence for the Religion of A-Theism) sputtered …

Tricky A-Theist:
I didn't say gravity, I said gravitons. Specifically your definition of gravitons, the kind with charge and spin. Do they obey the laws of physics?
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Franko previously said:
Well as far as I know, Gravity is One of the 4 fundamental forces of Physics, so I would say that since Gravity is a part of the laws of Physics, Gravity it is covered by the laws of Physics.
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Bud – seriously – you have been an A-Theist for over 30 YEARS and this is all you have to show for it? NO EVIDENCE??? And you are going scream at me, like it is my fault?!? Like it is MY problem?!?! Get a life you dogmatic religious fool! You are embarassing yourself.


What is your evidence for the existence of “free will”?
Tricky, 30+ year A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe in “free will” anyway!

What is your evidence for the non-existence of “god”?
Tricky, 30+ year A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe there is NO “god”, and anyone who believes otherwise is a credulous Theist moron!

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What is your evidence for the non-existence of “free will”?
Franko, Logical Deist: Atoms obey TLOP; You are made of Atoms; YOU OBEY TLOP!

What is your evidence for the existence of “god”?
Franko, Logical Deist: TLOP (“god”) makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR.
In the same way that YOU are more conscious then a CAR, TLOP is more conscious then YOU.
 
And now, Franko, I see you are frantically deleting and reposting in a comic, yet tragic effort to misdirect others from the fact that you either cannot or will not answer a simple question.

Do GRAVITONS obey the laws of physics?

It's a binary answer, Franko, your favorite kind.

This is about the sixth time you've deleted and reposted, Franko. How long do you want to play this little game?
 
Q-Source said:
Tricky,
This is what you consider a debate?
Life is not a game.
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No, Q. This is what I call trying to get an answer to a straightforward question. I do not wish the question to be buried or made to look like it was already responded to. I would prefer that Franko stop this, and of course I eventually will. I'm letting him (and others) know that we recognize his childish tactics.
 
Source:
You two are having fun?
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Well, I am now that you are here, Baby! ;)

Hehehe … what do you want me to say? Tricky has convinced himself that his religion is magical. He doesn’t need to prove any of his claims are True. We just all need to accept what he says based on his “good word”. He’s been saying as much for 30+ years, now his Karma is catching up with him.

… and he don’t like. Boo-hoo-hoo :(

What is your evidence for the existence of “free will”?
Tricky, 30+ year A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe in “free will” anyway!

What is your evidence for the non-existence of “god”?
Tricky, 30+ year A-Theist: NONE, but I devoutly and dogmatically believe there is NO “god”, and anyone who believes otherwise is a credulous Theist moron!

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What is your evidence for the non-existence of “free will”?
Franko, Logical Deist: Atoms obey TLOP; You are made of Atoms; YOU OBEY TLOP!

What is your evidence for the existence of “god”?
Franko, Logical Deist: TLOP (“god”) makes/controls YOU makes/controls CAR.
In the same way that YOU are more conscious then a CAR, TLOP is more conscious then YOU.

Ahhh, who am I kidding – yeah Source – it is F U N! :D
 
The Progenitor Solipsist simply appeared. Nature abhors a vacuum. Autogenitor Solipsist would be a more accurate nomenclature but Progenitor it shall be.
 
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