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Let's start the Occupy People's Party!

Axiom_Blade said:
Yeah, like that when that African-American lady wouldn't move to the back of the bus, when the driver told her to. The driver had to stop the bus and call the police. She made a lot of people very angry and irritated, and probably made some passengers late to their appointments.
What a douchey thing to do!
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Yeah, OWS is just like that. :rolleyes:
 
Axiom_Blade said:
Yeah, like that when that African-American lady wouldn't move to the back of the bus, when the driver told her to. The driver had to stop the bus and call the police. She made a lot of people very angry and irritated, and probably made some passengers late to their appointments.
What a douchey thing to do!
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'Red' Rosa was simply following orders from the Communist Party.
http://www.rense.com/general68/rosa.htm
 
And remember what your dentist told you: after you Rense, spit.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
I don't have to go into the city or join a political party in order to defile my environment, sleep rough, never shower, scream obscenities, abuse others, impinge and violate other's rights, or claim to be a member of the 99% when I am as relevant as a speck on a flea on an elephant.
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Or maybe a flea on a kangaroo since you're from Australia, maybe?
 
dc1971 said:
Is there an Occupy movement in Australia?
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Yep. And they are as insignificant as a flea on Uluru.

They have no idea what they want, what they are doing, why they are doing it, but will go out of their way to be as antisocial as possible to make sure they are heard. :rolleyes:

In Melbourne they were given a week in the City Square. After upsetting thousands, damaging businesses, killing the the grass and staining it yellow, the authorities moved in and moved them on to the cheers of the millions of other Melburnians who thought them stupid young and misguided.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
They have no idea what they want...
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You sure about that?

what they are doing...
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Sure about that?

why they are doing it,
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Sure about that?

but will go out of their way to be as antisocial as possible to make sure they are heard. :rolleyes:
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Actually, I think it's the other way around. I see how most people who criticize the movement being so up on themselves as well as taking some REBEL-WITHOUT-A-CAUSE authoritative attitude. This type of attitude I speak of is very thick here on JREF especially among those from other countries who have no idea what we're going through in this country right now (i.e. the United States of America).

killing the the grass and staining it yellow,
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I'm anxious to see your picture of yellow stained grass. That must have been fascinating for you to see how people can stain grass like that! Surely you took a picture or one of your law enforcement buddies did, eh?
 
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dc1971 said:
You sure about that?
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Yep

dc1971 said:
Sure about that?
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Yep

dc1971 said:
Sure about that?
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Yep.

dc1971 said:
Actually, I think it's the other way around.
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Then you would be wrong.

dc1971 said:
This type of attitude I speak of is very thick here on JREF especially among those from other countries who have no idea what we're going through in this country right now (i.e. the United States of America).
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I was asked about Australia, not the USA. :boggled:

dc1971 said:
I'm anxious to see your picture of yellow stained grass.
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You can see where they have been. Dirty buggers. :)

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A.A. Alfie said:
Yep.



Then you would be wrong.
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Okie Dokie then! See below!


You can see where they have been. Dirty buggers. :)

...and so he shows me a map...
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It seems you really have not done your homework on the occupy movement. Considering your statement of turning the grass yellow and then showing me a map, it's obvious you have nothing to contribute to this conversation other than trivial, nonsensical statements.
 
dc1971 said:
It seems you really have not done your homework on the occupy movement. Considering your statement of turning the grass yellow and then showing me a map, it's obvious you have nothing to contribute to this conversation other than trivial, nonsensical statements.
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Can't you see where they've been? - it's all yellow. :)

Actually I take this thread about as seriously as they take deserve to be taken.

Time for a humour transplant
 
magellan said:
Or, you know, fight to keep people in their homes:

http://www.alternet.org/occupywalls...reclosed_houses_unleash_more_police_violence/

But better look the other way when they do stuff, right?
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Do Banks seriously evict people who are two weeks behind on their loans? Doesn't the USA have the equivalent of credit acts, collections acts etc to help protect the rights of the consumer?

I used to manage a collections department of a major Bank here - our motto was that it was "our job to help people to stay in their homes", not kick them out; a bank makes more money leaving clients in, than foreclosing.
 
A.A. Alfie said:
Do Banks seriously evict people who are two weeks behind on their loans? Doesn't the USA have the equivalent of credit acts, collections acts etc to help protect the rights of the consumer?

I used to manage a collections department of a major Bank here - our motto was that it was "our job to help people to stay in their homes", not kick them out; a bank makes more money leaving clients in, than foreclosing.
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My guess is they don't have the manpower to do that, and rather come to a "low maintenance" position fast.
There is also the whole not having all the necessary paperwork thing.
And they don't seem to care too much about laws:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/85016e02-19df-11e1-9888-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1feMgm0fZ
 
magellan said:
My guess is they don't have the manpower to do that, and rather come to a "low maintenance" position fast.
There is also the whole not having all the necessary paperwork thing.
And they don't seem to care too much about laws:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/85016e02-19df-11e1-9888-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1feMgm0fZ
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Guessing and evidence don't quite seem the same to me.

Before we start claiming that the Occupy RWACs group are "doing stuff". I think we need some facts on the table.

First and foremost: Is it really within the Banks' rights to sell up their clients because they are (say) two weeks behind?
 
While you are right that this is a "She said/They said nothing" story, and we only have her word on that particular detail, the basic fact remains:
She got her loan modification, after some unfocused protesters being drunk in public, or something like that.

Banks are also not supposed to foreclose on military on active duty, yet they did 5000 times.
Banks are also not supposed to foreclose on homes where they don't hold the mortgage, yet they did numerous times.
Banks are also not supposed to foreclose on homes where there is no, and never has been, a mortgage, yet they did that at least once.
Banks are also supposed to read stuff before they sign it. It has been proven in court that that was something they did not.

Given all that, I am going to go with her, but if you think she was behind more, it still doesn't change the basic fact that she got her modification instead of eviction.
 
magellan said:
While you are right that this is a "She said/They said nothing" story, and we only have her word on that particular detail, the basic fact remains:
She got her loan modification, after some unfocused protesters being drunk in public, or something like that.

Banks are also not supposed to foreclose on military on active duty, yet they did 5000 times.
Banks are also not supposed to foreclose on homes where they don't hold the mortgage, yet they did numerous times.
Banks are also not supposed to foreclose on homes where there is no, and never has been, a mortgage, yet they did that at least once.
Banks are also supposed to read stuff before they sign it. It has been proven in court that that was something they did not.

Given all that, I am going to go with her, but if you think she was behind more, it still doesn't change the basic fact that she got her modification instead of eviction.
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I might accept all that if you could prove it. But it isn't even relevant to the claims.

Can banks foreclose on people who are only two weeks behind?

If they can't I am calling BS on the occupy group . It is quite possible that they are using her and her home as a squat pending some better digs. And in the meantime making up a nice story to back up their cause and get some favorable and emotive publicity.
 
How much she was behind is the most irrelevant part of the story.
The further she was behind the less the bank "had to" make a deal with her.
They made a deal with her, after public pressure.
Ergo: public pressure works.
How much she was behind only adresses how much it works.

Anyway:
Soldiers:
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/11/14/41398.htm (And numerous other sources)

Doesnt have the mortgage:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/10/27/mortgage-debt-waived-after-bank-cant-find-paperwork/ (And numerous other sources)

Didn't read stuff they were signing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_foreclosure_crisis#Robo-signing_controversy
 
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