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Wars... rioting, violence and destruction. Where evil mankind destroys themselves, and their victims... including the innocent and the environment.

Those things have been going on since the dawn of humankind. Yet, very few regions have seen men become so scarce they began taking extra wives.

So, what, specifically do you believe will happen to so decimate the population that will become necessary, and when?
 
From Randfan's link:
but that this is not the souls final resting place. They believe that all the people of the earth will be resurrected and receive their physical body again

Doesn't that mean those hermaphrodites and transgendered individuals have their old problems handed right back to them?
 
Even in the after life free agency allows the person to accept or reject the Eternal Gospel. Baptism by proxy is of no effect if the individual does not accept the ordinance.

This is GREAT news, indeed!

I can wait until after I die, see which is the ONE TRUE religion, then come back to a member of that religion and join postumously.

I mean, who wouldn't?
 
:D Wake up Joey and AdMan. I have no interest in logging in to those sites :p

Proof of how closed minded you've become. When things get narrowed down, the open mind to debate narrows down as well. Can you see this?
 
https://www.lds.org/topics/baptisms-for-the-dead?lang=eng

The Lord revealed to the Prophet Joseph Smith sublime doctrine concerning the sacred ordinance of baptism. The Lord’s revelation that through proper priesthood authority, baptism could be performed vicariously for the dead preserved the justice of His statement:
“Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Vicarious baptism can mercifully provide this essential ordinance for all worthy deceased who did not receive it in mortality.
This glorious doctrine is another witness of the all-encompassing nature of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. He made salvation available to every repentant soul. His Atonement conquered death, and He permits the worthy deceased to receive all ordinances of salvation vicariously.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/10/the-joy-of-redeeming-the-dead?lang=eng

This is certainly your belief, I understand that part, but is there evidence for it? Is it stated somewhere in the Book of Mormon, or is it something you were taught by the Church, or is it something you have come to believe on your own. I am genuinely curious as to the basis for your belief.
 
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https://www.lds.org/topics/baptisms-for-the-dead?lang=eng

The Lord revealed to the Prophet Joseph Smith sublime doctrine concerning the sacred ordinance of baptism. The Lord’s revelation that through proper priesthood authority, baptism could be performed vicariously for the dead preserved the justice of His statement:
“Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Vicarious baptism can mercifully provide this essential ordinance for all worthy deceased who did not receive it in mortality.
This glorious doctrine is another witness of the all-encompassing nature of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. He made salvation available to every repentant soul. His Atonement conquered death, and He permits the worthy deceased to receive all ordinances of salvation vicariously.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/10/the-joy-of-redeeming-the-dead?lang=eng


Yes, I understood that. I asked you a different question, though. I was asking specifically for the basis of this statement:
Most deceased mortals are waiting anxiously for their families to do this work for them
Mine was not a question of how or whether, but of how many.
 
I have not served an official LDS mission, but three of my sons have... one in New Zealand, one in Queensland Australia, one in Colorado, United States of America.

Janadele,

Have you ever done missionary work? Just curious.

If so, would you like to tell us where?

Thanks:)
 
Baptism by authority is a requirement for every mortal who has ever lived on this earth... otherwise their progression is restricted and they cannot inherit eternal salvation.

https://www.lds.org/topics/baptisms-for-the-dead?lang=eng

The Lord revealed to the Prophet Joseph Smith sublime doctrine concerning the sacred ordinance of baptism. The Lord’s revelation that through proper priesthood authority, baptism could be performed vicariously for the dead preserved the justice of His statement:
“Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”

Janadele. this in a nutshell neatly sums up why I don't agree with the teachings of the book of Mormon. Or Christian theology in general.

The teachings of any particular subset of Christian involves believing in and adhering to a persons interpretation of "Gods word"

Looking at the quote above which is John 3:5. This is the retelling of a conversation Jesus had with a man called Nicodemus. Nicodemus asks about the mechanics of being 'born again' "how can someone be born again, they cannot re-enter their mothers womb?"

We can interpret John 3:5 (which is the only time a requirement to be born of water is mentioned) in lots of different ways. The bible doesn't explain this. Inside the womb a child grows inside a sac of fluid, it's reasonable to interpret John 3:5 as referring to a natural birth. There are several other equally plausible interpretations of this text.

LDS teachings refer to yet another book of the bible, the book of Mormon. As well as later teachings from "the prophet" and from those you hold the belief that a person cannot progress in eternal life in heaven without being physically baptised in water.

That is at odds with many verses of the bible e.g. Romans 6:23, Romans 10:9 Ephesians 2:8-9 which state that anyone who accepts Jesus as their saviour gets eternal life and salvation, nothing else required, no works, no rituals to complete.

So which is right? What version is the truth, and why so many conflicting versions?

The bible is a document written after the fact. It was written in an older language and has been translated and re-translated many times in it's history. Language has many quirks and idiosyncrasies which can subtly change the meaning of the words, often in ways that a translator that is not sufficiently fluent in both can miss.

On top of those potential errors, preachers from different churches will then impart their own interpretation of what is written and over time that causes whole different branches of the church to emerge.

[that phenomenon mirrors evolution so closely it's a interesting debate all by itself]

Which brings me to my question. Why do you believe in the teachings of the Mormon church and reject those of other Christian churches?

What makes the words of the 'prophets' you follow so special and how do you rationalise the revisionism that continues in the teachings of the LDS church?

In your case why do you believe that the LDS church is the right one, and the Anglican church you grew up with, is the wrong church?

To be more specific how do you rationalise

Baptism by authority is a requirement for every mortal who has ever lived on this earth... otherwise their progression is restricted and they cannot inherit eternal salvation.

with

Ephesians 2:8-9 NIV said:
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
 
My late husband never joined, nor did he give his permission for me to be baptised. However he did not stop me from attending nor raising our six children LDS. One of our sons was on his mission in Colorado when his late father appeared to him and his companion and asked to be baptised. There was great excitement in the mission, and my son was baptised as proxy for his father in the Denver Temple.

I don't believe you.
 
https://www.lds.org/topics/baptisms-for-the-dead?lang=eng

The Lord revealed to the Prophet Joseph Smith sublime doctrine concerning the sacred ordinance of baptism. The Lord’s revelation that through proper priesthood authority, baptism could be performed vicariously for the dead preserved the justice of His statement:
“Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Vicarious baptism can mercifully provide this essential ordinance for all worthy deceased who did not receive it in mortality.
This glorious doctrine is another witness of the all-encompassing nature of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. He made salvation available to every repentant soul. His Atonement conquered death, and He permits the worthy deceased to receive all ordinances of salvation vicariously.

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/10/the-joy-of-redeeming-the-dead?lang=eng

Or, Smith made the whole thing up.
 
Seriously though, what is it you wish to accomplish here? It cannot possibly be to convince of the truth of your beliefs. If that's your goal you've done nothing productive toward it. Spewing the silly, and blatant dishonesty of the frauds and charlatans who started your church isn't likely going to sway people on a skeptic's forum. Is this perhaps some twisted revenge fantasy you have to spew the sick rantings of your church and then sit back smugly and know we're going to some sort of hell because we rejected the drivel that constitutes your faith?
 
Baptism by authority on this earth, either preferably in person while in mortality, or by proxy when deceased, is a requisite to enable progression in the eternities.

Baptism by authority is a requirement for every mortal who has ever lived on this earth... otherwise their progression is restricted and they cannot inherit eternal salvation.

How do you know?
 
KiriKiwi,
That is the eternal question which has been answered time and time again :) If you read my previous posts the answer is there.
 
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