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Laptop RAM question

Reminds me of the Atari STFM. One quick fix was to lift it about 6 inches and drop it to reseat components that were loose. I had the 520 and did a RAM upgrade on that. It also used GEM but I mainly used it for playing Eye of the Beholder etc.

Did you have the ones with socketed ram chips?

My business partner and I did a roaring trade in fixing the likes of Commodores (usually VIC chips burning out or a connection needing resoldering) and memory upgrades on a range of "home computers". We hated the STs for memory upgrades, I think it was the STFM that it was a toss up whether the additional memory bank would be socketed or not. If it was great - we just had to push in (if my recollection is correct) 16 RAM chips, otherwise we had to un-solder the holes for each RAM chip.

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Just went to look for details and found a video that brought it all back for me:




 
As I recall I had to remove the ram chip, insert the expansion thing in the socket then the ram chip back into that. The expansion unit then had a cable off to more ram than I had to squeeze in somewhere.
 
As I recall I had to remove the ram chip, insert the expansion thing in the socket then the ram chip back into that. The expansion unit then had a cable off to more ram than I had to squeeze in somewhere.

Ah that sounds like one of the add-on boards that came later - they let you raise the memory to the max 4Mb!
 
The computer community loves little more than to go back and laugh at "X computer is all you are going to need" predictions, but if you notice they aren't wrong in the way people think they are wrong. What a "computer" does and is expected to do changes.

64k probably is enough if all you're doing is... like calculations. Like math. Like computers first started out being used for.

512k probably is enough if you're just doing productivity software like word processing and databases.

Take "Multimedia" and "Gaming" out of the equation and some of those predictions get a lot less silly and if you mentally add on a "If we keep using computers as we are using them now for the tasks we are using them for now" onto a lot of these "X amounts of storage/memory/processor is all we will ever need!" statements they get a lot less worthy of being fed crow.
 
The computer community loves little more than to go back and laugh at "X computer is all you are going to need" predictions, but if you notice they aren't wrong in the way people think they are wrong. What a "computer" does and is expected to do changes.

64k probably is enough if all you're doing is... like calculations. Like math. Like computers first started out being used for. ...snip...

I think you mean 1k. Lots I could do with my ZX81 before I got the rampack!
 
I wish they had said how much it cost when new! The story also mentioned GEM, about which I had almost forgotten. One of my companies bought a computer that had it installed, I quite liked it. You couldn't actually DO anything with it, but it seemed nice!

I bought a similar computer in 1985/86 for about $3,000, but mine had a wide printer, so figure maybe $600 less. Memory 512K 10 Meg HDD. The one thing that seems odd about that Amstrad is the 3.5-inch floppy drive; I don't remember those being common until several years later. Mine had the dual 5.25-inch floppy drives.
 
I think you mean 1k. Lots I could do with my ZX81 before I got the rampack!

All I can say is those things must have been a lot better in the UK than they were in the US. I can remember inputting like five lines of basic code and then suddenly seeing the lcd go blank. Over and over again. Sent it back.
 
I've been having intermittent update-related issues with my laptop and Win 10. It seems every update crams a bunch of junk into the thing, which then waits endlessly for things that aren't running to connect, and for me to update the settings on programs I don't even know I have.
That's why I wasn't too unhappy when MS stopped updating Win7 on this old computer, about which you can see more in my thread.
You tube videos. Great value for working on laptops.
And espresso machines.
About 20 months ago, shortly after moving into the new house, we bought a magnificent, er DeLonghi Magnifica, espresso machine. Almost automatic. Add water, add beans, empty the used grounds, that's it. Except once in a while you need to descale and vacuum out the interior.
Ours was having a problem. The door would pop open when starting up or shutting down. Getting worse and worse. I cleaned the interior but it only helped a little. Finally Googled and watched a video. Oh, it's a little moving part ON the door! I hadn't looked there. No more problem after a quick removal of the buildup.
The machine, BTW, cost us over US$500.00 and has saved at least five or six THOUSAND dollars compared to the previous two Starbucks a day.
 
Take "Multimedia" and "Gaming" out of the equation and some of those predictions get a lot less silly and if you mentally add on a "If we keep using computers as we are using them now for the tasks we are using them for now" onto a lot of these "X amounts of storage/memory/processor is all we will ever need!" statements they get a lot less worthy of being fed crow.

I think another one of the issues is that as technology and the 'normal' moves forward someone will always ask "What more can we do?".
I started gaming from 3.5" floppies and watched the amazing change when CD drives became cheap enough, now 50Gb installs are common. Same for all the underlying feature sets; 640x480 graphics, capricious hardware & primitive sound, now we have game engines that will happily play at 4k & better resolutions, 90% 'just plug it in' devices & 5.1 soundtracks.

It's also led to stuff getting messy & bloated, as there's no requirement for keeping things compact & efficient. Why bother when people have a 3GHz octo-core processor, 4Gb of RAM & a 1080 display on their phone?
 
I bought a similar computer in 1985/86 for about $3,000, but mine had a wide printer, so figure maybe $600 less. Memory 512K 10 Meg HDD. The one thing that seems odd about that Amstrad is the 3.5-inch floppy drive; I don't remember those being common until several years later. Mine had the dual 5.25-inch floppy drives.

I think you will find that was a Winchester drive! ;)
 
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All I can say is those things must have been a lot better in the UK than they were in the US. I can remember inputting like five lines of basic code and then suddenly seeing the lcd go blank. Over and over again. Sent it back.

What was that?

And because Sinclair and his clever mates were clever you could squeeze more than you might think into that 1k - such as a chess game
 
I've been having intermittent update-related issues with my laptop and Win 10. It seems every update crams a bunch of junk into the thing, which then waits endlessly for things that aren't running to connect, and for me to update the settings on programs I don't even know I have.

I'd start by going to the Task Manager and disabling any startup items you obviously don't want. Check the services too (being careful not to disable needful stuff) and see if there's junk there. I never opened Skype in my life, but had nine instances of Skype service running at once.

Some things, like Skype, can just be uninstalled. Others, including some Xbox junk, are baked in, and require more effort.

There's more info on the web for disabling other stuff that can't be uninstalled normally, but every bit helps. Microsoft keeps putting Edge back in and defaulting all sorts of stuff to that.

I needed at some point to set up a separate administrator account, and found that a bunch of junk was set up there, and Edge was waiting for me to do stuff. Windows would take minutes to finish loading correctly, and programs would report "not responding," because Edge was waiting for me to enter stuff. So if you have more than one account, make sure you look at them all.

Every time I think I have it licked, it works great for a few days and then starts acting up again, and I find some new stupidity from Chairman Bill hiding somewhere gobbling up resources.

I may seriously have to look into how Linux can run some of the Windows specific programs I have, and if it does, maybe it's time.

e.t.a. in my case I don't think it's a RAM issue so much. Ram might help, but some of it is just Windows waiting for inputs that never happen. Eventually it gives up, and starts working again.

Thanks Bruto!

I regularly clean out autostart stuff - just like you I noticed that stuff creeps back!

So, I did it again.

It's not looking like a RAM issue now. Yesterday, I was playing a couple of games from Steam: Kingdoms and Castles, recommended 4GB, and Knights and Merchants, recommended 1GB.

So - I'm sure you guessed which one locked up twice?

There's a computer place not far from us, so I might have a chat with them.

Thanks again to all who contributed!
 

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