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Ken Starr dead

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(Wasn't sure where to put this, since it doesn't seem to fit in any of the other threads.)

Noted ass-wipe Ken Starr died from complications related to surgery.

From: PR Newswire
Starr died on September 13, 2022 at Baylor St. Luke's Medical Center in Houston of complications from surgery.

Starr was the Special Council who was given the task of investigating the Clintons and Whitewater. (This eventually morphed into an impeachment involving oral sex. Ok, technically lying about it. But still... he had to stray pretty far from his original job to end up looking at that...)

Of course, his pro-impeachment stance seemed to disappear when Trump was president, and he had no qualms defending him, because now impeachment was bad.

(He was also noted for having to resign from a position at Baylor university, when the university was found to be negligent in dealing with cases of sexual assault.)

He will not be missed. Well, unless he owed money to someone. Then they might miss him.
 
Starr did a great deal of legal work for that POS Trump, and now I wonder if Trump actually paid Starr for that work.
 
These tributes to Ken Starr are heartwarming. There is nothing like dancing on the grave of a political enemy, I suppose. For some, anyway.

Starr would later receive authority to conduct additional investigations, including the firing of White House Travel Office personnel, potential political abuse of confidential FBI files, Madison Guaranty, Rose Law Firm, Paula Jones lawsuit and, most notoriously, possible perjury and obstruction of justice to cover up President Clinton's sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky.
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No matter what else, I commend him for his work to expose the corrupt Clintons. Was he politically motivated? In some cases, I'm sure. But that is the law of the land in that arena.
 
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He was a major tool in the GOP's then relatively new strategy of gaining control by any means. Funny how deeply concerned he was with Bill Clinton's consensual blowjob, but then seemingly couldn't give less of a **** about students at Baylor being raped while he was president of the university. And of course he was on Jeffrey Epstein's defense team when he helped him get 13 months work release as punishment for the statutory rape of numerous underage girls.

**** that guy.
 
Warp12 said:
These tributes to Ken Starr are heartwarming. There is nothing like dancing on the grave of a political enemy, I suppose. For some, anyway.




No matter what else, I commend him for his work to expose the corrupt Clintons. Was he politically motivated? In some cases, I'm sure. But that is the law of the land in that arena.
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Not edgy.


ETA: **** that hypocrite.
 
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There is nothing like dancing on the grave of a political enemy? Better to have done it the right-wing way, make death threats against him while he's still around?

The federal judge who authorized the warrant to search for classified material at Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s beachfront home and club, became a target. On pro-Trump message boards, several threats were issued against him and his family, with one person writing, “I see a rope around his neck.” Link to New York Times report
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Example from Facebook:
"A quicker way to get rid of Pelosi would be a bullet to the head."
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What I remember most about Mr. Starr was after failing to find anything corrupt about the Clintons in the actual Whitewater affair he with ally Linda Tripp worked, quite deliberately, on creating a perjury trap for President Clinton.

The way Monica Lewinsky was manipulated by the both of them is bluntly appalling. Not that I in anyway approve of President Clinton's really stupid behavior in all this towards Monica Lewinsky. I could get into the whole part about Monica being held for a couple of days by Starr until she agreed to cooperate among other dubious behavior.

Mr. Starr utterly failed "expose" the "corruption" of the Clinton's. Instead he set up an entrapement and Clinton very stupidly lied under oath about about "having sex with that woman" and Starr and the idiot Republicans decided that that was an impeachable offence, lying under oath about having sex?! Really!!! That is a high crime and misdemeanour????

This was all carefully planned. Also Starr's attempt to create masss public disgust by including, in detail, descriptions of the sexual acts that Monica and Clinton performed failed utterly. I find it so interesting that a political party so willing to impeach a President over lying about sex in a civil suit is os very unwilling to even consider impeaching Trump for vastly more serious stuff. Oh well. Of course with Clinton it was different - he was a Democrat not a Republican.

Starr's legal career before the whole Clinton fiasco did involve some questionable activities like defnding Tabacco companies in court from claims of damages etc.

And after the Clinton fiasco Starr showed his true colours. His lack of interest in the sexual horror stories at Baylor along with his helping Trump avoid being convicted in his Impeachment trial indicate clearly his political bias. Thus we find out that when it is Trump up for Impeachment, Impeachment is bad for the country and strangely enough Starr was on Jeffrey Epstein's legal team that helped him years ago secure a sweetheart deal.

Mr. Starr was in the end another political hack and not a principled person.
 
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Warp12 said:
These tributes to Ken Starr are heartwarming. There is nothing like dancing on the grave of a political enemy, I suppose. For some, anyway.
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Whether people 'dance on the grave of their enemy' depends on how that enemy conducts himself.

For example, John McCain was a long time republican senator and former presidental candidate, with a very strong right-wing voting record. (In other words, "the enemy".) Yet when he died, he was seen by at least some on the political left as someone who acted with at least some integrity, and seemed to get at least some respect.

Ken Starr was no McCain. He did not act with integrity, and thus received much more scorn. (I pointed out his significant hypocrisy and his moral failures to deal with crimes at Baylor... things you seem to have ignored.)

No matter what else, I commend him for his work to expose the corrupt Clintons.
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The only 'corruption' he found was lying about oral sex. OOooooo.... Big deal.

Couldn't find anything on Whitewater. Couldn't find anything on, well, anything else. Color me unimpressed.

Was he politically motivated? In some cases, I'm sure. But that is the law of the land in that arena.
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If its the "law of the land", it is largely because HE MADE IT THAT WAY.

Had Starr actually acted with integrity, maybe the republican party wouldn't have felt so compelled to go down the route of "power at all costs" (even if it involves nothing more than smear tactics").
 
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The way Monica Lewinsky was manipulated by the both of them is bluntly appalling.
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Lewinsky is an interesting person. In her youth she was almost criminally naïve. But she seems to have learned from her life and these days comes across as funny and wise.

Also, she ages very gracefully, something she attributes to diet, exercise, and a ****-ton of plastic surgery.

Anyway, her take on Starr's death:
as i’m sure many can understand, my thoughts about ken starr bring up complicated feelings… but of more importance, is that i imagine it’s a painful loss for those who love him.
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That's much more graceful than any treatment she ever got from him.
 
Segnosaur said:
Had Starr actually acted with integrity, maybe the republican party wouldn't have felt so compelled to go down the route of "power at all costs" (even if it involves nothing more than smear tactics").
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Starr was a drop in the bucket, in that regard. In that particular era, Newt Gingrich was far more instrumental.
 
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Had Starr actually acted with integrity, maybe the republican party wouldn't have felt so compelled to go down the route of "power at all costs" (even if it involves nothing more than smear tactics").
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Starr was a drop in the bucket, in that regard. In that particular era, Newt Gingrich was far more instrumental.
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True, Gingrich probably had more influence, but the way I see it it, Starr's role was much more high profile. Gingrich was the engine, Starr was the gas pedal.
 
Segnosaur said:
Whether people 'dance on the grave of their enemy' depends on how that enemy conducts himself.

For example, John McCain was a long time republican senator and former presidental candidate, with a very strong right-wing voting record. (In other words, "the enemy".) Yet when he died, he was seen by at least some on the political left as someone who acted with at least some integrity, and seemed to get at least some respect.

Ken Starr was no McCain. He did not act with integrity, and thus received much more scorn. (I pointed out his significant hypocrisy and his moral failures to deal with crimes at Baylor... things you seem to have ignored.)


The only 'corruption' he found was lying about oral sex. OOooooo.... Big deal.

Couldn't find anything on Whitewater. Couldn't find anything on, well, anything else. Color me unimpressed.


If its the "law of the land", it is largely because HE MADE IT THAT WAY.

Had Starr actually acted with integrity, maybe the republican party wouldn't have felt so compelled to go down the route of "power at all costs" (even if it involves nothing more than smear tactics").
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Somehow, "Investigate the Whitewater affair", which, IIRC, did result in one or two convictions, but no evidence turned up that the Clintons were involved in anything illegal, changed to "Find something, anything at all we can pin on Bill Clinton." He was like the cop in "Les Miserable" (whose name I don't remember) who pursued the hero for years because he escaped from prison to which he'd been sentenced for the heinous crime of stealing a loaf of bread to feed his starving family.

Trump loves to claim "witch hunt" any time he comes under scrutiny, but Starr conducted a real witch hunt against the Clintons.
 
Warp12 said:
These tributes to Ken Starr are heartwarming. There is nothing like dancing on the grave of a political enemy, I suppose. For some, anyway.
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That's quite some virtue signaling from the same person who calls women "split tails", doesn't care if the homeless die prematurely, and if children are forced to give birth to children themselves due to rape/incest. And those are just some of the less than virtuous things you've said that I can remember off the top of my head.

No matter what else, I commend him for his work to expose the corrupt Clintons. Was he politically motivated? In some cases, I'm sure. But that is the law of the land in that arena.
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Evidence that the Clintons are 'corrupt'? The GOP has attempted for decades with investigation after investigation to find dirt on them and all they could come up with was "Bill lied about having oral sex". But they did a masterful job in convincing conservatives like you that the Clintons are the spawn of the devil.
 
Warp12 said:
These tributes to Ken Starr are heartwarming. There is nothing like dancing on the grave of a political enemy, I suppose. For some, anyway.




No matter what else, I commend him for his work to expose the corrupt Clintons. Was he politically motivated? In some cases, I'm sure. But that is the law of the land in that arena.
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Should we wait for you to provide the actual evidence from Starr that the Clintons are corrupt? Seems like it would be a rather futile wait.
 
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