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Jon Stewart most trusted

Isn't there something wrong with a countries media if you can tell them apart by naming it a conservative/liberal media outlet?

And is there any media outlet both sides consider to be neutral/centered?
[Besides the Daily Show and Colbert Nation, of course]
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Oliver said:
Isn't there something wrong with a countries media if you can tell them apart by naming it a conservative/liberal media outlet?

And is there any media outlet both sides consider to be neutral/centered?
[Besides the Daily Show and Colbert Nation, of course]
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One of the problems is that some people define "liberal" to mean "not conservative". If you're not with them, you're against them. This creates an illusion of total polarization where there is in fact a wide range, including neutrals.
 
I watch Stewart if I catch him. Good sense of humor, more informed than most on TV. But, in the end, he's a Left-Wing ideologue and, therefore, forfeits trust. Cronkite was never ideological, at least not on-camera, which was the foundation for the trust he earned.
 
Oliver said:
Isn't there something wrong with a countries media if you can tell them apart by naming it a conservative/liberal media outlet?

And is there any media outlet both sides consider to be neutral/centered?
[Besides the Daily Show and Colbert Nation, of course] [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/11107492086f803655.gif[/qimg]
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Actually, it's a myth that journalists, whatever sector of news they work in, are neutral. We shouldn't expect journalists to be neutral, in fact we need them to be invested in what they are doing. It's fairness that we need, and rigorousness in looking at all sides of an issue and reporting data without prejudice. There's nothing wrong with passion in journalism. I think it's fair to say the best journalists are passionate [...] and biased, but their reporting is not biased.
 
Cicero said:
The lame stream media desperately tried to hammer home that very message. Good to see that you were herded in the desired direction.
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Even the Labor Party Prime Minister got that wrong.
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The government desperately tried to hammer home that very message. Good to see that you were herded in the desired direction.
 
To say this without getting into the liberal/conservative angle although it is tempting... Jon Stewart (and the fact that his fans trust him as an information source) is the perfect example of what's wrong with current American politics: the tendency for people (such as him, but also as a widespread pattern among many others, famous and not famous) to put political comments in a form that they switch back and forth between treating as serious and treating as "just a joke". Whenever they say something that doesn't go over very well when seen in one way, they just hide behind claims that it was really the other. This becomes just a way to try to get away with (and even support and encourage, in one's political allies) a bunch of hate speech and childish mockery/belittling.
 
Delvo said:
...This becomes just a way to try to get away with (and even support and encourage, in one's political allies) a bunch of hate speech and childish mockery/belittling.
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Do you actually watch the show? If so, you must have a glass navel.
 
The problem with John Stewart is not that you don't get real news, but that you don't get enough of it. They have only a handfull of stories a night, but the stuff they say is really great commentary. He was hilarious last night ripping Obama for the whole Gates thing. His "senior black correspondant", Larry Wilmore made some excellent points, like what the heck is a college professor and published author doing yelling stuff like "yo mamma" unless he was desperate to be downtrodden by whitey. He probably doesn't get that much in the rarified air of the Ivy League.

No, I don't think anyone should use Stewart as their primary news source, but as a complementary news source that is in-depth on a very few issues, it is not to be sneered at. Laughed, yes, but not sneered.
 
Also, I like the fact that he demonstrates that he actually read at least part of the book before he talks intelligently with the author. And asks informed questions.
And let's not forget the prophetic "Indecision 2000",
 
People always talk about how many Americans get their news from The Daily Show, and whether we should be worried about it or something...as if that's some kind of recent development. Before the Daily Show, how many people got their news from Letterman or Johnny Carson? I'll bet it was quite a large percentage.
 
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