John McCain Quotes

[BeAChooser]

Measuring a war by one battle is ridiculous and not what the McBush junta was talking about before the war.

Why do I think you've never heard the saying "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy"?

I thought Belgiums learned that in WW2.

And do you even know what a "junta" is? Or is that just a word you see a lot in your socialist party literature?

Once again, by talking about "being received as liberators", McSame was saying that no resistance or civil war would spring up after the war.

In March 2003, just prior to the start of military operations, McCain said on the floor of the Senate, “The costs of these enterprises are not known with any degree of certainty at this time. Nor are the costs we will incur after what I believe, what I fervently, hope, will be a brief, successful war in Iraq, as we seek to establish the foundations for a peaceful, stable and democratizing Iraq.” McCain also added, “I believe the war in Iraq can be concluded successfully in a relatively brief time.” (Congressional Record, 3/18/03)

Yes, you're right, my backwards country did not have any access to the Internets in 2003 or any other media

That's not the problem. It's WHICH media and websites you frequent that matter. I find socialists tend to visit only the ones that say what they want to hear.

Yes, hundreds thousands dead, millions of refugees, continuing violence to this day, enormous poverty, a military involvement that has lasted for more than five years, increased terrorism throughout the world, the situation in Afghanistan getting worse and worse...

Now I could argue that you aren't correct about a number of those claims but instead I'll just point out that PRIOR to the invasion, Saddam was responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis; he'd driven millions from their homes or so deprived them of basic needs (water, sewage, electricity) that those homes were now mass graves; he turned his country into a place where fear was the norm and violence on a massive scale was a daily occurrence at the hands of his Republican Guard and secret police; that this situation had persisted for over 10 years while the world basically did nothing; that terrorism in the world increased during that time in no small part because of the actions of Saddam in supporting it; and that the situation in Afghanistan at the time was much worse than it is now.

You really should read McCain's pre-war speech (October 2002) before the vote authorizing the use of force (http://www.jedreport.com/2008/07/john-mccains-fl.html ).

Originally Posted by BeAChooser
1) Sectarian violence is way done from a year ago.

2) al-Sadr's Iranian backed militia no longer controls any Iraqi regions and it's leader has fled the country to Iran.

3) al-Qaeda's top Iraqi leadership is either dead, captured or has fled the country (apparently for Afghanistan). al-Qaeda is having trouble recruiting in Iraq, and may not be sending new recruits from elsewhere to Iraq any longer.

4) US and Iraqi casualties are way down.

As I said, violence's down...for now.

But I didn't claim you said otherwise. You appeared to doubt we are winning the war. I think those things answer that question. And for the record, most real experts agree that if we do what Obama now proposes, the violence will go back up ... and then we might not win the war. But that would be ok with you. Right?

Originally Posted by BeAChooser
5) Iraq's security forces are nearly up to full strength, increasingly well trained, performing well in combat, and close to taking over responsibility for all regions of Iraq outside a few military specialties.

6) Iraq has made significant political progress and continues to demonstrate it's government is respected by the people and able to weather crises and elections.

7) Iraq's economy is starting to boom, and not just in Kurdish areas. Foreign investors are now wanting to invest in Iraq.

Those statements are, let's say, at least slightly optimistic.

No, they are quite accurate.

 

[Cain]

At least folks now know where you really stand and you didn't get to do a "drive by" and leave the scene. And I'm not half as dense and those who see nothing wrong with the hypocrisy of NOW.

'Sup, Freakshow? How many Obama voodoo dolls did you make today? Oh, your meaningless post, I guess we should get to that. It doesn't matter if the proprietor of Crooks and Liars is a rapist himself. I disliked Clinton long before the Lewinsky witch-hunt, and all of this crap about womanizing and so-called "Republican family values" is rank hypocrisy itself.

You are being dishonest by ignoring the context in which that claimed quote was presented to the media ... in an press release by groups of women belonging to an organization whose president said we should ignore credible (according to the FBI investigators!) allegations of rape by Bill Clinton.

Shameful meandering.

There has been NO confirmation that he actually said that joke. The women the article named as eyewitnesses have apparently never been asked if that was a correct accounting. Couldn't be reached? Or when they were reached did their response not fit the charge so the drive-by media did what it does time and again ... slam a conservative with a false allegation then move on?

I don't really see the joke as all that of a big deal, except that McCain is probably a bad joke-teller. The account is that he probably said it, but it's not half as bad the Chelsea Clinton joke, which he definitely told. In that episode he viciously attacked a young woman who had not done anything to anyone.

Why? Because the Clintons gave us so many ways to point out your party and supporters' blatant hypocrisy?

You're not... smart. You're not even competent.

 

[Texas]

Obama quotes

Tit for Tat

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama-isms.htm

"Just this past week, we passed out of the out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee -- which is my committee -- a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon." --referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008

"Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008

"How's it going, Sunshine?" --campaigning in Sunrise, Florida

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

"Hold on one second, sweetie, we're going to do -- we'll do a press avail." --to a female reporter for ABC's Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)

"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" --after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania

"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

"Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions." --exasperated by reporters after a news conference

"You're likeable enough, Hillary." --during a Democratic debate

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people

 

[Texas]

to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there."

You posted no links to any of your quotes but this one is especially offensive and should be deleted unless you have a source to back it up.

 

[Dr Adequate]

He called Hillary likeable? Damn, he must have been at the crack again.

 

[Dr Adequate]

You posted no links to any of your quotes but this one is especially offensive and should be deleted unless you have a source to back it up.

Cliff Schecter, The Real McCain:

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you ****.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.​

Did he just make that up? You be the judge.

 

[Texas]

He called Hillary likeable? Damn, he must have been at the crack again.

LOL. I saw that debate I thought she was about to rip his head off when he said it.

 

[Texas]

Cliff Schecter, The Real McCain:

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain’s intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain’s hair and said, “You’re getting a little thin up there.” McCain’s face reddened, and he responded, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you ****.” McCain’s excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.​

Did he just make that up? You be the judge.

Probably no more than this guy.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortunate_Son_(Hatfield)

 

[Texas]

Yeah this guy is a paragon of objectivity. US News couldn't even find his sources. The sources must be in GITMO

Schecter, for his part, says he hopes that the bulk of his book, which details McCain's evolving positions over the years on issues ranging from military interventionist policy to tax cuts, doesn't get lost in the hubbub over temper allegations. And he adamantly defends his sourcing: "I'm as comfortable with those facts as with any other fact in my book," he told U.S. News. An effort to arrange to speak with Schecter's sources was unsuccessful, though the author described in some detail the positions held by the sources at the time of the alleged incidents and their whereabouts today.

"I'm an unknown quantity, and the sources in the two stories are unnamed," said Schecter, a senior fellow at Working America, an affiliate of the AFL-CIO. "But they are true." Says Hazelbaker, McCain's spokesperson: "I hope that the Democrats follow the blueprint laid out by Mr. Schecter, as it will almost certainly guarantee John McCain's victory in November. One thing that is absolutely clear is that Americans are sick and tired of this type of gutter politics."

The book, put out by the progressive California-based publisher PoliPointPress, was listed at No. 117 on Amazon's bestseller list this afternoon

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[Dr Adequate]

Yeah this guy is a paragon of objectivity. US News couldn't even find his sources. The sources must be in GITMO.

Either that or they actually did agree to speak "on the condition of anonymity". In which case not telling US News how to find them would presumably be part of that agreement.

That's the great thing about claiming to have anonymous sources, I guess.

 

[ike42]

I've been telling that joke for nigh on thirty years. It's older than I am, possibly older than my grandfather.

So, it's possible that McCain originally made it up.

 

[Peephole]

Why do I think you've never heard the saying "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy"?

Well, instead of claiming that U.S. would win the war easily, maybe McCain should have told that to the American people.

In March 2003, just prior to the start of military operations, McCain said on the floor of the Senate, “The costs of these enterprises are not known with any degree of certainty at this time. Nor are the costs we will incur after what I believe, what I fervently, hope, will be a brief, successful war in Iraq, as we seek to establish the foundations for a peaceful, stable and democratizing Iraq.” McCain also added, “I believe the war in Iraq can be concluded successfully in a relatively brief time.” (Congressional Record, 3/18/03)

“I believe the war in Iraq can be concluded successfully in a relatively brief time.”

5 years+ is a relatively brief time? Thanks for proving my point, I guess.

PRIOR to the invasion, Saddam was responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis; he'd driven millions from their homes or so deprived them of basic needs (water, sewage, electricity) that those homes were now mass graves; he turned his country into a place where fear was the norm and violence on a massive scale was a daily occurrence at the hands of his Republican Guard and secret police; that this situation had persisted for over 10 years while the world basically did nothing; that terrorism in the world increased during that time in no small part because of the actions of Saddam in supporting it; and that the situation in Afghanistan at the time was much worse than it is now.

Indeed, the situation was ****ed up before and you guys ****ed it up even more. In the meantime, other problems (Afghanistan, Islamic extremism, ...) were neglected or made worse.

You really should read McCain's pre-war speech (October 2002) before the vote authorizing the use of force (http://www.jedreport.com/2008/07/john-mccains-fl.html ).

Jesus Christ, that speech is horrible.

There's fear mongering and inventing a threat that didn't exist:

"It will determine whether our people live in fear behind walls that have already been breeched, as our enemies plan our defeat in time we have given them to do it."

"...whether to wait for this man, armed with the world's worst weapons and willing and able to use them, to make history for us."

"The government of Saddam Hussein is a clear and present danger to the United States of America."

"Giving peace a chance only gives Saddam Hussein more time to prepare for war - on his terms, at a time of his choosing, in pursuit of ambitions that will only grow as his power to achieve them grows."

"For the United States to accept Saddam's continued rule is to acquiesce to the certain prospect of strategic blackmail when, soon, Saddam wields a nuclear weapon and threatens the destruction of Israel or the invasion of Saudi Arabia, or demands the withdrawal of all American forces from the region, and America finds itself forced to respond at much more terrible cost than we would pay today."

"Opponents of this resolution offer many questions that are designed to persuade the President to wait before moving against Saddam Hussein. They have every right to do so. But there is one question I don't want to be asked in the months and years ahead: "Why did you give Saddam Hussein time to harm us?""

The blatant lies about WMD's:

"He has developed stocks of germs and toxins in sufficient quantities to kill the entire population of the Earth multiple times. He has placed weapons laden with these poisons on alert to fire at his neighbors within minutes, not hours, and has devolved authority to fire them to subordinates. He develops nuclear weapons with which he would hold his neighbors and us hostage."

"Saddam Hussein is on a crash course to construct a nuclear weapon."

And some encouragement to violate international law:

"The President was right to tell our friends and allies on the Council that if it does not act, America will."

And for the record, most real experts agree that if we do what Obama now proposes, the violence will go back up ... and then we might not win the war. But that would be ok with you. Right

That's rich, on the one hand you claim Iraqi forces are "close to taking over responsibility for all regions of Iraq", there's "significant political progress", a "booming economy", etc... But! Pulling out combat troops over a period of 16 months would somehow negate all what has been accomplished.

If Iraq can fall back that easily, there was never any progress in the first place.

 

[Peephole]

Tit for Tat

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama-isms.htm

That's not really tit for tat in the sense of McCain making misleading statements in order to get the U.S. to go to war. Just some verbal slip-ups.