It's not just conservatives

[Art Vandelay]

varwoche
"I have a theory-in-process that by force feeding children The Big Lie -- literal beliefs in preposterous religious texts -- that a form of brain damage occurs. And that when a child's mind is warped this badly, that he/she is from then on incapable of discerning reality. "

"Nearly seven in 10 Americans believe it is likely that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11 attacks"

wipeout
"Blair has never had popular support before, during and after Iraq because there was no obvious relationship between the Iraqi government of Hussein and terrorists."

"If that's all there is then it hardly justifies the unprovoked invasion of a particular country,"

 

[varwoche]

I have no clue whatsoever what your point is. But so long as you're quoting me, here's the thread.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Of course you don't get it. That's the point. You complain about conservatives, but you guys post lie after lie yourselves, and seem to have no shame. Then you wonder why Bush got elected, and why people aren't listening to you.

 

[Suddenly]

Of course you don't get it. That's the point. You complain about conservatives, but you guys post lie after lie yourselves, and seem to have no shame. Then you wonder why Bush got elected, and why people aren't listening to you.

Lies?

Varwoche's thing about brain damage may not be the most genteel way of making the point that our culture seems to have an abysmal outlook on what education should be, but last I checked being less than gentle is not a lie.

In fact the only claim of fact you quote is the one about the 7 of 10 people thinking Iraq and 9-11 are connected. Is this figure wrong, and if so why is getting a figure wrong a lie rather than a mistake?

The others seem to be opinions.

So is this a good place to complain about people who just get mad and then post drivel without stopping and figuring out exactly what they are trying to say?

The only relevant possible criticism is about V's use of the term "brain damage" to describe those prone to conservatism being a indication that the right has no monopoly on mean rhetoric.

Is that what you meant? That at least begins to make some sense w/r/t to the whole "mean statements aren't just for conservatives anymore" type theme you seem to mean to develop but lack the skill to do so....

 

[varwoche]

You complain about conservatives

Where do I complain about conservatives? Bush2 has caused me newfound appreciation of conservatism. I'm downright wistful for Bush1 and Bob Dole.

but you guys post lie after lie yourselves

Us guys? I don't lump other members, nor do I accept being lumped.

no shame

Please Art, you're slaying me. That you would call attention to my thread (see link above) -- given that you display ignoramity at a level I've not seen since my last encounter with, well, you -- breaks the no-shame meter beyond repair.

And that you choose to jump on a statement that I qualified as "rhetorical" and "theory in process" tells me that you are non-observant and/or intellectually lacking.

On top of which, when members call fellow members liars, when a statement could just as easily be construed as ignorance, miscommunication, or rhetorical in nature, is so flat out lame that it's embarrasing.

I also referred ro fundamentalists collectively as a giant wasp. That might have been more quote worthy, if you're out to expose me as a liar.