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It IS possible to be a freeman on the land

I've been looking up some stuff over the last few days with the aim of being able to write a comprehensive letter to a friend who's going to become a Freeman.

The info is so fragmented that it's actually putting me off lol, report writing was never a strong point - I have no idea how well I can do it as I always managed to avoid it - so the more I gather the less inclined I am to put the letter together.

I looked into Raymond St Clair - who features in the videos my friend posts on his social networking sites - and it's just a mess. In short, it appears that he used a previous name (Gary Beaver) to set up a string of dead end businesses while pocketing investors money, headed off to Spain, got in trouble there after a few years and turned up here with the name change.

Confusing the info, is some guy spreading info about him also using the name 'Tim Rifat' but I couldn't establish if that were true; and accusing Ray of being a peadophile but there was nothing to support that except from clearly photoshopped news reports. It does appear likely that St Clair is a long term conman however and the irony of him calling our legal system 'fraudulent' is massive.

There appears to be another guy whose name I'm less familiar with, John Harris. At first I was looking at the wrong guy but I found the English one with the middle name 'James', on youtube quoting from Black's law dictionary. IIRC, he was referencing the earlier definition of "person" in that book which does mention that--in law--there exists a natural person and an artificial person. It doesn't say however that these can be exclusive of one another, and the later editions explain the definition in a less easily manipulated fashion.

What Harris doesn't do is use the same Law Dictionary to point out the definitions of Common Law, Government or Territorial Law - the latter which gives the recognised government the power to rule over anyone within said territory.


As I say, I haven't got round to trying to compile the info in any kind of fashion (indeed I suspect the learning part hasn't finished yet), and it's not something I'm particularly great at so it may take some time or just never come lol. It's a theory that starts out on a false premise. When we answer all the questions FOTL have (has?) you always come to that starting point where they outrightly disagree with the rudiments of Common Law.

I'm not sure my friend actually realises half of the stuff involved. Either that or he's making a sudden conversion to Christianity or some kind of theism as I'm pretty sure he was an atheist until now.

It makes your head spin at every turn this stuff...
 
The fact that you reside in a country you by default consent to the government of that country.
More than that...

The fact that you reside in a country demonstrates that your consent isn't nearly as necessary as some would like to believe.
 
Maybe we should have a world wide 'day of consent' all 'nationalities and countries' will be dissolved and everyone goes it alone.
 
I think you will find the staple diet of most freemen is beer and fags.

Hey , hey , hey, lets not insult the male prostitutes here. Dee Dee Ramone (king) was a great man, and shouldn't be lumped in with the FOTL crowd.

Oh ...wait... you meant cigarettes....
 
He wrote all the really good Ramones songs. He's beyond reproach.


More on topic, how do the fmootlers reconcile the fact that Raymond St. Clair sells (bogus) aristocratic titles. I mean, with them being all equal and what not....
 
He wrote all the really good Ramones songs. He's beyond reproach.


More on topic, how do the fmootlers reconcile the fact that Raymond St. Clair sells (bogus) aristocratic titles. I mean, with them being all equal and what not....


I don't think they know. Typically, the Freeloaders' research seems to come from statements on the web and all from one side at that.

I can imagine what might happen when his previous behaviour catches up with him again, he'll run off to another country claiming he was forced out because of his dangerous knowledge and the people that believe in him will treat it as evidence.
 
Reminds me of this guy. I remember a lot of people getting quite worked up on another forum when I pointed out he's not living without money, he's just living without handling money himself.
 
I'm not very well versed on the whole FOTL thing...but IMO it seems impossible.

Though, it IS possible to live "off the grid" somewhat. I know a few folks who do this.

They live like farmers...nearly all foods are grown or hunted...solar panels and generators for power...water from a well...buried septic system that should last 50+ years...TV reception is nothing more than a digital-receiver box...etc...

But, they cannot completely negate the outside world. Some minor foods items (dairy items, some fruits) are purchased...fuel for the generators and vehicles is purchased...land taxes, though relatively small, cannot be avoided.

Even in early America, people had to trade, buy, and barter goods to be "self-sustaining". It's nearly impossible to fall off the face of the earth and live comfortably...expecially now. There is always something you may need/want that you cannot replicate on your own.

If being a FOTLer means I have to live like a vagrant, I think I'll pay my taxes where needed, thanks...
 

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