Is Palin really looking towards 2012?

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As I said in another thread, (assuming the GOP loses on Nov 4) it depends on how big the loss is. If it is a total disaster for the GOP, then anybody connected with the 2008 ticket will be considered toxic for a long time to come.

If it is close loss, then yeah, maybe Palin has a future.
 
I think Palin realizes the McCain/Palin ticket is a lost cause, and is focusing her talking points to things that she thinks will benefit her and hers after the election, or at least, help her recover from the loss. But, I don't think the right really cares much for her, and she will disappear into obscurity after Nov 5.
 
Denver said:
But, I don't think the right really cares much for her, and she will disappear into obscurity after Nov 5.
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Quite the contrary. The idiot right wing of the party put her where shje is. William Kristol played a pivotal role in getting her on the ticket, in place of Joe Liebermann.

If they lose, the ideologues will say it was because trhey went squishy-middle-of-the-road and insist that they have to swing farther right to be ready to undo the damage they see Obama doing, like depriving the entrepreneurs of the right to keep wages and taxes low.

The GOP has a learning disability, probably related to their myopia.
 
I think Palin's future depends on what happens in the next Alaskan governor's race. Pre-McCain, she was very popular. She may have tarnished her reputation there enough that she may lose the next election. If she does, she's toast. If, however, she comes back and wins and recovers her popularity, then I think she'll remain on the national scene.
 
SezMe said:
I think Palin's future depends on what happens in the next Alaskan governor's race. Pre-McCain, she was very popular. She may have tarnished her reputation there enough that she may lose the next election. If she does, she's toast. If, however, she comes back and wins and recovers her popularity, then I think she'll remain on the national scene.
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Right and wrong. Palin may be in trouble in Alaska. It seems that even her own state didn't know much about her before she got added to the national ticket. It is almost certain that her popularity will drop some. But even if it rose very slightly, her position of "rising star" is completely tarnished. She will not even be a consideration in 2012. Her best chance, though, is to dump the governorship job and run for Congress. If Stevens is elected, then convicted, that gives her an excellent opening. I still don't think it will be nearly enough to keep her in any sort of position to be a national player.
 
Hokulele said:
Maybe she is angling towards becoming the next Pat Robertson.
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Not likely. Whatever else his shortcomings, Pat is actually good at public speaking. True, Palin is in her element where she has a prepared sermon/speech, like most of Robertson's are, but she hasn't got enough evangelical fervor, IMO.
 
Tricky said:
I still don't think it will be nearly enough to keep her in any sort of position to be a national player.
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Fun speculatin' :)

Alaska is a very conservative state - an ideal location upon which to base a comeback. It depends one which faction gains control of the Elephant herd. If the theocons dominate, I think Palin will play a role. If Mittens and the corporatecons hold the reins of power, then Senator will be the top of the ladder for her - and she will be a damn poor one.
 
Tricky said:
Not likely. Whatever else his shortcomings, Pat is actually good at public speaking. True, Palin is in her element where she has a prepared sermon/speech, like most of Robertson's are, but she hasn't got enough evangelical fervor, IMO.
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I'm not so sure. She does have media experience, and I think we are seeing a very stilted version of Palin, most likely due to over-handling by the McCain campaign. She seems to have the fervor, just not a message she wants to promote.

This might make for an interesting long-term bet ...
 
Hokulele said:
I'm not so sure. She does have media experience, and I think we are seeing a very stilted version of Palin, most likely due to over-handling by the McCain campaign. She seems to have the fervor, just not a message she wants to promote.
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I dunno. Maybe she being stilted by the nature of the campaign, but I really don't see anything in her that indicates to me that she can move anyone but people who already like her. All indications are that she is a one-trick pony and that people tire of her rhetoric very quickly. I don't think that is totally due to her being forced out of her element. And frankly, I think there is a good chance that she will be very relieved when this circus is over and she can go back to being a big fish in a little pond. She seems to be a woman who likes a fair amount of privacy, and I would say that it is with good reason.

Hokulele said:
This might make for an interesting long-term bet ...
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But I love your avatar the way it is!;)
 
Here's an interesting perspective on Palin's future:


Palin's future causes Republican rift

"A civil war that is simmering will break out into the open if McCain loses, and the party will have to decide what they want to be in the post-Reagan world," said Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN."
 
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