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Iowa Caucuses

Alferd_Packer said:
I don't think it matters because the caucus selection is non binding on the convention delgates.

In other words, even if Michele Bachmann were to win today, come time for the convention, those delagates are not obligated to vote for her and they won't.
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I thought he meant that you have to declare for somebody and your neighbors all know who you declared for.
 
Brown said:
When I was an Iowa resident, I attended some caucuses and skipped others. The ones I skipped were sometimes because I couldn't fit the thing into my schedule, and sometimes because I was in a district where a caucus was a damned waste of time. (In some districts, the outcome is practically decided upon before the damned thing begins; and you know who the movers and shakers and troublemakers and delegate-wannabes are; and there is virtually zero chance that your voice or presence will add anything. It is a classic example of an empty gesture.)

Anyway, in less than 24 hours, the situation in Iowa will abruptly change. All the obnoxious TV ads will stop--for a long while. All of the traffic jams caused by candidate public appearances will disappear.
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Went to see the folks last week, and planned to go out to pizza. Had to relocate because Newt was coming to town. Drove right by the other place, where Newt was supposed to be, and there was no sign of any traffic jam at all.

When Rick Perry was there, there was a crowd of 74 that showed up.

All of the annoying phone calls will cease, and the peace will be welcome.
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My folks and my wife's folks were getting 2 - 3 phone calls PER DAY throughout the month of December. No call lists do not matter for politics. They pretty much quit answering the phone.

I heard my dad on one of them. He says, "Why don't you just leave us alone?" Apparently he actually had a live person on the line for a change.
 
balrog666 said:
Paul is the natural protest vote and, as the Democrats are not holding their own caucus, they are free to distort the GOP caucus proceedings in any way they think will be the most fun embarrassing/entertaining/monkey-wrenching.
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Um. I think I'll go with the sign.

Handmade Anti-Obama Sign Currently Frontrunner For Republican Presidential Nomination

The telephone survey of 773 likely voters indicated the sign, a piece of poster board bearing the handwritten phrase "NOBAMA 2012" in bold red letters, would defeat former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, its nearest rival, by a landslide 17 percentage points if the primaries were held today. The poll also found the sign had a "favorable" or "highly favorable" rating among 94 percent of registered Republicans, a figure greater than all other presumptive GOP candidates combined.
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Looks like there are three tickets out of Iowa. Santorum (24%), Romney(24%), and Paul(22%).
 
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Somebody update me, please. My internet connections to news sites are screwy today. Getting partial screens. I figure it's a plot because Ron Paul swept to a resounding victory. (Then again, I had Mexico at +12 to wing the Mexican-American War, so I wouldn't trust my prognosticating.)

Seriously... shouldn't the results be coming in by now?
 
Foolmewunz said:
Somebody update me, please. My internet connections to news sites are screwy today. Getting partial screens. I figure it's a plot because Ron Paul swept to a resounding victory. (Then again, I had Mexico at +12 to wing the Mexican-American War, so I wouldn't trust my prognosticating.)

Seriously... shouldn't the results be coming in by now?
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With about half the precincts reporting:

Santorum -- 24.3%
Romney -- 23.7%
Paul -- 21.6%
Gingrich -- 13.3%
Perry -- 10.2%
Bachmann -- 5.6%

Nobody else with as much as 1%
 
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Thank you.

Be still my heart. If one is rooting for the implosion of the New Teatarded GOP, the only better result than a Ron Paul win is a Santorum win. Not only do you earn all that air time for the reprehensible little git, but you also get the Ronulans frothing at the mouth about how the mainstream media continues to ignore their messiah.

As for Ron? He can build that dream house now. This ought to be worth about twenty million in donations for his hope chest after he pulls out of the race before the convention.
 
No win for Paully boy. Looks like it's a dead heat between He-Man Womanhater and the Bruce Campbell look-alike.
 
Redtail said:
Santorum.... Really?
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Considering they picked Huckabee last time, not too surprising. I don't think he'll be any more able to translate this into real momentum than Huckabee could. And Huckabee's win was by a much wider margin (if Santorum actually wins; its so close that it might change still).
 
Did it not look a bit like Michele Bachman's campaign manager for Iowa was a very camp homosexual? Not that it should matter, of course, except for the fact that much of her presidential campaign has involved pandering hard to rabid homophobes.
 
angrysoba said:
Did it not look a bit like Michele Bachman's campaign manager for Iowa was a very camp homosexual? Not that it should matter, of course, except for the fact that much of her presidential campaign has involved pandering hard to rabid homophobes.
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Didn't see the person. What's his/her name? "Gaydar" isn't always reliable.
 
There will be no recount. So I guess that means that Mitt Romney is the official winner with a margin of only 8 votes.

University of Iowa political scientist Tim Hagle says he can’t imagine a candidate requesting a recount. Because the caucus is a popularity contest that doesn’t actually award delegates, he says candidates within a handful of votes of the lead are more likely to declare victory and move on.
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So if this contest doesn't actually award delegates, who decides and when? Do they award them proportionally or winner take all?
 
Puppycow said:
So if this contest doesn't actually award delegates, who decides and when? Do they award them proportionally or winner take all?
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Wikipedia is your friend.
The Iowa caucuses are an electoral event in which residents of the U.S. state of Iowa meet in precinct caucuses in all of Iowa's 1,774 precincts and elect delegates to the corresponding county conventions. There are 99 counties in Iowa and thus 99 conventions. These county conventions then select delegates for both Iowa's Congressional District Convention and the State Convention, which eventually choose the delegates for the presidential nominating conventions (the national conventions).
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So, if I understand this (which I am by no means sure of) it looks like the Caucuses are to appoint electors to county conventions. Those electors then vote for electors to a state convention, who then choose electors for the national convention.
 
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