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Interent security software?

Zone Alarm is the first thing to get disabled if anything gets a toe-hold on your PC. It's so common that it's the first thing people learn to bypass and disable. I tried Kerio firewall for a while, it certainly had way more capabilites than Zone Alarm, but the free version doesn't last long enough so you'd have to cough up some dough for the full one.

The best security is to be had by hiding behind a router, since it can do pretty much everything a firewall can and in combination with Spywareblaster, Ad-aware and a good virus scanner you're as secure as you can be on a tiny budget. Just be sure and update and patch regularly.
 
asthmatic camel said:
I've recently checked out a trial version of Norton's internet security suite, which is supposed to be the best product available. It's an expensive, intrusive nuisance.

We flog this with new systems (I work in a laptop sales/repair shop) and it does keep down the instances of people coming back in a fortnight's time to tell you their computer is "broken" and we should remove their spyware because it's under warranty. People are stupid, etc.

I remember seeing somewhere (can't quote a reference, sorry) average system slowdowns dependant on what software was installed and NIS was one of the worst offenders at around 18%.
It's a rip-off, as most anti-virus is. The best solution is, as ever, to be sensible in the first place in your choice of browser, security patches etc if using Windows.

If you're not using windows, you don't really have to worry about viruses, anyway :)
 
moopet said:
If you're not using windows, you don't really have to worry about viruses, anyway :)
I'm giving very serious thought to this.....but is it practical from a home user standpoint? How do I run all my Windows-based software, connect to the net, etc etc?
 
You dont. There are operating systems that can mimic a lot of windows stuff and emulate the windows environment, but they tend to be very buggy and take a lot of learning to use properly. Some masochists will chime in that Unix, Linux, etc are the way ahead and Windows is dead, but the fact remains that way more than 95% of computers run some form of Microsofts operating system and that's the reason it gets attacked so much.

Take precautions, use the right software and watch where you surf and you'll spend your days virus and adware free.
 
:( Well so much for THAT idea.


It always blows me away the the monopoly MS has continues to go unchallenged (ie legally).
 
bigred said:
I'm giving very serious thought to this.....but is it practical from a home user standpoint? How do I run all my Windows-based software, connect to the net, etc etc?

I've considered installing Linux, just because I've nothing better to do. Is it really difficult to use? I'm far too lazy to learn how to use difficult software.
 
If anyone is really interested in Linux, have a look at this thread.

Basically, if you're a home user without specialist software (e.g engineering programs), and you don't use your PC for gaming, Linux is a viable option, and can save a lot of money.

Burn a copy of knoppix (you want the file named "KNOPPIX_V3.9-2005-05-27-EN.iso"). This is the Linux-on-CD that gives an idea of what it's like.

It makes a good recovery disk anyway.
 
Yes indeed, as long as you dont play games or want to run 99% of the software out there you can go with Linux.

I know a few guys who've set up one Linux PC out of several they own just to try and learn it, and some others who have it as a dual-boot option. I toyed with making one of my PCs run some windows-emulating version of it too, but couldn't be bothered in the end because pretty much all I do with my PCs is play games or use 3D rendering software that doesn't support Linux.
 
bigred said:
I'm giving very serious thought to this.....but is it practical from a home user standpoint? How do I run all my Windows-based software, connect to the net, etc etc?

The most viable alternative for the home user at this point in time is Mac OS X. Linux is doable and most of what I say below applies to it also, but I honestly think the Mac user interface is superior to Linux's (and Windows) and the system as a whole is easier to work in (and you can run 90% of Linux software on it.)

Biggest downside to switching from PC to Mac is purchase of new hardware. A Mac mini will run $500-$900 depending on how you trick it out but all (almost all?) of your monitors, USB and firewire peripherals will work with the mini.

Assume you can connect to the net. Some ISP's don't support connections other than Windows, but that usually means you have to find Mac/Linux friendly support there are a number of places on the net these are available. The mac can do PPoE, DHCP, dialup and most of the authentication systems I've seen. Usually the Mac can do these without installing any of the crap software from the ISP (software I'm half convinced contains spyware for the ISP).

Software - your PC software won't run natively on the Mac (even after the Mac switches to Intel chips it won't run natively on the Mac.) Theoretically you can use Virtual PC to run Windows on the Mac, but a) this puts you back in the boat of virus exposure, b) runs more slowly than on an equivelant PC (emulation isn't free.) Many manufacturers of PC software make Mac equivelants (almost all Adobe products , Microsoft Word/Excel/PowerPoint and Quicken are available in Mac editions) but they won't swap your current license for a Mac license for free. Adobe will let you cross-upgrade (i.e. when PhotoShop 8 comes out you can upgrade PhotoShop 7 for PC to PhotoShop 8 for Mac) but it costs a bit more than standard upgrade.

The questions I would be asking about my software is:
a) Do I actually need this level of software. Microsoft Word is not needed to write a 2 page letter. Apple's iWork package contains a word processor and presentation software that can replace Word/PowerPoint (not Excel yet) for $80. Microsoft Office upgrade will set you back more than that.

b) Is an equivalent software available at a resonable price? I hate Outlook Express for mail, but if you use Thunderbird it's available on the Mac for free. Apple's Mail.app is free and way better than Outlook Express. Microsoft includes Entourage, it's more full-featured than Outlook Express mail app, with Office for the Mac.

Mac's have a plethora of web browsers available to them, all of them way more standards compliant than IE, but IE is just different enough (of course, it's from Microsoft) that it is possible to write web pages that work on IE for Windows and not the Mac.

Apple includes a DVD player for free (Microsoft doesn't. If you got one for free with your PC it was from the manufacturer of the computer and probably doesn't work real well.)

If you're a serious hard core gamer that needs to have the latest release ASAP then forget it. Windows is the only platform. If you like games, can wait 4 months to a year for a game to get ported to your platform, then the Mac is quite acceptable. Game performance will probably be lower on the Mac than on the PC, not because the computer is less capable but because the porters are under the gun and don't get to optimize as much as the original developers. Games rarely get ported to Linux these days (not that they never do, just not as frequently as they get ported to Macs.)

Most important first step is to define what you use your computer for now. List software you actually use and what you do with it. See if it is available, or an equal equivalent (and look for unbiased reviews), on the OS you're looking to move to and how much it will cost you.

Don't forget to include the costs of your current security software that you'll no longer need (just make sure you stay up on patches on ANY OS you choose.)
 
Kenny 10 Bellys said:
Yes indeed, as long as you dont play games or want to run 99% of the software out there you can go with Linux.

Your figure of 99% is a little misleading.

Most software that you buy in the shops won't run on Linux.

HOWEVER, Linux systems come with FREE software that does everything that the standard user will need (Word Processor, spreadsheets, presentation, photo editing, internet browser, email, anti-virus etc.)
 
software firewalls

For those people looking for a good alternative to zonealarm I use Tiny Personal Firewall. It used to be free for personal use back in the version 2.x days (several years ago now) but now costs even for the personal version I believe and is up to version 6.5 something.

I STILL use the old 2.x version as I have for years because it has never given me any problems in all that time. It is however not really for the non-technical. If you don't understand ports and protocols then ZA is probably the one for you.

The old 2.x version of Tiny PFW should still be available somewhere on the web, I could probably generate a md5 hash / checksum of the version I have to help ensure it hasn't been tampered with if anybody asks. Oh and it is tiny, fits on a 1.4MB floppy (remember those?) no problems at all.

[edit] it turns out Tiny is now Kerio personal firewall, the developers of the firewall split from the Tiny company and took the code with them and still offer it free under the Kerio name for personal use. I'm going to check it out...
 
What do people think is the best anti-virus program if I don't mind paying for it? I asked this question awhile ago and got many different answers.

~~ Paul
 
Paul C. Anagnostopoulos said:
What do people think is the best anti-virus program if I don't mind paying for it? I asked this question awhile ago and got many different answers.

~~ Paul

This website ranks Kaspersky Pro as #1.

He rates 58 anti-virus programs, using 91202 virus samples, and Kaspersky Pro caught 99.28% of those virus samples.

RayG
 

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