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Is it against the law to murder these dingbats?

Only if you get caught - hide the bodies well!
 
Shag that. I say sentence them to an eternity of explaining themselves to Alice Hoglan and other family members of flight 93 Heroes.

TAM:)
 
Is it against the law to murder these dingbats?

Only if you get caught - hide the bodies well!


If there weren't consequences I'd do it. I don't know how you folks can go to Ground Zero and restrain yourself from shattering someone's nose and cheek bones.
 
Good responses over there, Ron, as usual.
Make them come to us. Anytime a new theory is proposed, it has to run a withering gauntlet in the world of science. And that is what happens here. You almost feel sorry for 'em, watching how easily they are busted up at the JREF forum.
Fah. I was "busted up" on this forum for just suggesting Bush behaved in an unethical or deceptive manner (lack of criminally implicating evidence) and, facing a volume of words comparable to a Robert Jordan novel in the form of reductions and rationalizations, I had to admit some giants of unbiased discourse exist here. But seriously, the only scientific thing about politics is: If you have dubious people in office, dubious behavior follows, as do dubious motives about what they are doing. Bush is either profoundly in denial, or profoundly morally insane. Or both. Simple incompetence doesn't justify it.
 
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Fah. I was "busted up" on this forum for just suggesting Bush behaved in an unethical or deceptive manner (lack of criminally implicating evidence) and, facing a volume of words comparable to a Robert Jordan novel in the form of reductions and rationalizations, I had to admit some giants of unbiased discourse exist here. But seriously, the only scientific thing about politics is: If you have dubious people in office, dubious behavior follows, as do dubious motives about what they are doing. Bush is either profoundly in denial, or profoundly morally insane. Or both. Simple incompetence doesn't justify it.
There are many subjective elements to the 9/11 events, all of which can support a broad spectrum of hypotheses and speculations. I don't think any serious member here at JREF would deny that. It's the absurd leaps of "logic" promulgated by the conspiracy theorists that get slam-dunked in this particular forum. The ones that are apolitical. Those claims which violate the tenets of common sense, natural law, human interactions, event logistics and current technology.

It's one thing to say that Bush is a moron with dubious motives. Quite another to insist that non-existent beam weapons pulverized the WTC complex, or that the planes were holograms, or that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, or that Flight 93 never crashed in Pennsylvania.
 
"More beans, Mr. Tagert?"

"I think you boys have had enough!"

I love this movie!
"What did you expect? Welcome sonny? Make yourself at home? Marry my daughter? You gotta remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know - morons."
 
Focusing on What Really Matters

"Right now, even as we speak, Louis Pasteur over in France has developed a vaccine for smallpox, cowpox, and anthrax..."

"Never mind that sh-t: Here comes Mongo!"
 
These people can't be real. How would they feed themselves or cross a street without getting killed?



Does Ronald Wieck Worship Josef Gobbels ?
Submitted by Fred on Sun, 2006-12-31 06:48.
We should get you a brown shirt and some jackboots to go along with your BIG LIE.




according to the documentation on
Submitted by CB_Brooklyn on Sun, 2006-12-31 06:47.
wtc.nist.gov,
the North Tower collapsed in 11 seconds, and the South Tower in 9 seconds.
Freefall in a vacuum would be 9.22 seconds.
Therefore, in the atmosphere, both Towers collapsed at *faster* than freefall speed.
Silverstein said "er, fire commander". "Er" meaning he knew the person by a different title. No one claims that the FDNY blows up buildings. Controlled Demolitions Inc is on record as saying that "pull it" means "pull down". And we know that pull down means to bring down in a controlled demolition. It doesn't really matter though.. anyone with a brain can tell WTC 7 was a controlled demolition just by watching the video.
Mr Wieck, do you sleep with the light on?



What "We" Know
Submitted by Ronald Wieck on Sun, 2006-12-31 18:07.
Yes, "we" know something that everyone in the demolition industry does not know. But, "we" are irrational morons whose beliefs are unfalsifiable. "We" know many things about branches of science that "we" have never studied, things that real scientists say are untrue. "We" haven't the slightest idea of what possible use the bringing down of WTC 7 could be to the Impossibly Vast Conspiracy. "We" believe that Islamic fundamentalism does not exist, that it is no factor at all in shaping the world. "We" are the dumbest, blindest, most ignorant jackasses alive.
 
"Right now, even as we speak, Louis Pasteur over in France has developed a vaccine for smallpox, cowpox, and anthrax..."

"Never mind that sh-t: Here comes Mongo!"
“I want rustlers, cutthroats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, half-wits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, conmen, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwackers, hornswagglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, a**kickers, s**tkickers, and METHODISTS!”
 
There are many subjective elements to the 9/11 events, all of which can support a broad spectrum of hypotheses and speculations. I don't think any serious member here at JREF would deny that. It's the absurd leaps of "logic" promulgated by the conspiracy theorists that get slam-dunked in this particular forum. The ones that are apolitical. Those claims which violate the tenets of common sense, natural law, human interactions, event logistics and current technology.

Well stated. No disagreement.

It's one thing to say that Bush is a moron with dubious motives. Quite another to insist that non-existent beam weapons pulverized the WTC complex, or that the planes were holograms, or that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, or that Flight 93 never crashed in Pennsylvania.
That's just out-of-the-ballpark paranoia that's not even worth discussing. Then again, I can't imagine a more ripe time to invent and sell silly theories about people who pull strings on Capital Hill.
 

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