Incredible Bats

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http://www.incrediblebats.com/

This is an amazing chance to see into the mind of a "Creation Science" believer. It details, with amazing specificity, the processes that God (or the creater/prime mover) put into motion to populate the planet. Here are some of the bewildering quotes I found after a quick perusal:

It is clear that bats confirm the literal interpretation of the creation account in Genesis. /.../ We would see creation of songbirds and the birds of prey. Included on this day would be the creation of flying dinosaurs such as pterodactyls.
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So they believe in dinosaurs, so they must believe in the fossil record, but they also believe that some dinosaurs and ALL birds were created in the SAME 24 HOUR PERIOD.

But later on we will see that the bats do confirm that the creation days were twenty-four hour periods.
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The most interesting stuff can be found under the "fingerprints of creation"
I found interesting the fact that they accept that different species of bat could have evolved from a common ancestor, but insist that God created the first bat fully formed. I can't see how you can say "I accept evolution, but only this much." If anyone here can clarify this viewpoint, please help.
 
WHat always amuses (horifies?) me about this kind of site is that a "creationist" or IDer will grasp at materials, facts, data, etc. and claim them as "fingerprints" of "creation" but when used/or explained as part of a scientific/evolutionary explaination it can be dismissed as "theory" not fact....
 
mattg said:
http://www.incrediblebats.com/


The most interesting stuff can be found under the "fingerprints of creation"
I found interesting the fact that they accept that different species of bat could have evolved from a common ancestor, but insist that God created the first bat fully formed. I can't see how you can say "I accept evolution, but only this much." If anyone here can clarify this viewpoint, please help.
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Now hang on a minute, god didn't create bats - the devil did. Otherwise why would vampires (who steal your soul ) turn into bats.

Remember that in every vampire movie the charming, if somewhat sinister, guy in evening dress turns into a bat so that he can fly in through the open window conveniently left open by the lovely full breasted young lady. He then, in defiance of common sense, feasts on her blood with a view to recruiting her to the legions of evil.

Surely the vampire would be unable to use the form of a divinely created animal for such a nefarious purpose.

Hmm if I work on this idea I wonder if I could sneak it onto a creationist site for a laugh.
 
mattg said:
I can't see how you can say "I accept evolution, but only this much." If anyone here can clarify this viewpoint, please help.
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Creationists believe that evolution can change a creature's physical form in minor ways, but cannot change one "kind" into another "kind". Their idea of a "kind" is roughly equivalent to "species", but quite a bit less rigidly defined.

In other words, their view is that evolution can change a wolf-like ancestor into all the different breeds of dogs we see today, but evolution could never change a one celled organism into a dog.
 
Another thing they keep mentioning is that there have never been any "transistional forms" found in the fossil record. I guess I'm not clear on what they mean by that, because any "transitional form" is just going to be some other animal. If I understand the human fossil record correctly, we've got plenty of examples of creatures that existed "between" an ape-like ancestor and modern homo-sapiens.
 
mattg said:
Another thing they keep mentioning is that there have never been any "transistional forms" found in the fossil record. I guess I'm not clear on what they mean by that, because any "transitional form" is just going to be some other animal. If I understand the human fossil record correctly, we've got plenty of examples of creatures that existed "between" an ape-like ancestor and modern homo-sapiens.
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That's why they can never be proven wrong. They just keep moving the bar. Any transitional forms are just included in one "kind" definition or another. Then they can once again claim there are no transitional forms.
 
They keep moving the bar?

Thank god.
I keep spilling my drink. I thought I was drunk.
 
They reckon pterodactyls were dinosaurs?
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Apparently their classification scheme make them the same "kind." I've heard Creationists claim bats as evidence against evolution before--"You never saw a bat with one wing!"I'll bet they have no idea of the diversity of bat species.
 
pupdog said:
Apparently their classification scheme make them the same "kind." I've heard Creationists claim bats as evidence against evolution before--"You never saw a bat with one wing!"I'll bet they have no idea of the diversity of bat species.
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You mean there are other bats than those vampire ones?

Oh, I was wondering why that bat was trying to suck blood out of that fruit...
 
Just from their first page it makes me wonder about their ability to understand.

"Bats are clean animals that groom themselves daily."

Clean animals because they lick themselves? Yuk! I did read once that they are one of the few species of mammals not to have lice but they do have fleas.

(And Eos - it probably was a blood orange.)
 
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Nikk said:


Now hang on a minute, god didn't create bats - the devil did. Otherwise why would vampires (who steal your soul ) turn into bats.

Remember that in every vampire movie the charming, if somewhat sinister, guy in evening dress turns into a bat so that he can fly in through the open window conveniently left open by the lovely full breasted young lady. He then, in defiance of common sense, feasts on her blood with a view to recruiting her to the legions of evil.

Surely the vampire would be unable to use the form of a divinely created animal for such a nefarious purpose.
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thats enough proof for me, the devil made bats!
 
"Flying dinosaurs..."
I'd hate to be under a flock of flying brontosaurs! But, showing almost as much imagination as these Creationists, Edgar Rice Burroughs described a scene where a stegosaur spread its plates horizontally, jumped off a cliff and glided away (I think this was in Tanar of Pellucidar ).
 
Darat said:

(And Eos - it probably was a blood orange.)
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ROFLMAO!!




















They are really good oranges. The ones sold in stores here each come in their own little orange cellophane wrappings.
 
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