If Hillary wins...

[sunmaster14]

Not every administration has their own set, and not every set is paid for by the taxpayers.

Plus the Clintons can use some of the stuff they stole from the White House 16 years ago:

After they were criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs, televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when they left, the Clintons announced last week that they would pay for $86,000 worth of gifts, or nearly half the amount.

Their latest decision to send back $28,000 in gifts brings to $114,000 the value of items the Clintons have either decided to pay for or return.

 

[bytewizard]

Plus the Clintons can use some of the stuff they stole from the White House 16 years ago:

They couldn't have taken anything! Remember, they were "flat broke" when they left the White House.

 

[RobRoy]

Plus the Clintons can use some of the stuff they stole from the White House 16 years ago:

Yes, they totally stole it—except they didn't.

 

[DavidJames]

Yes, they totally stole it—except they didn't.

Damn reality.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I agree, Hillary is sexist towards women.

Right, a person whose been working for women's rights her whole life is sexist toward women.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Not every administration has their own set, and not every set is paid for by the taxpayers.

I found 20 sets and more recently the china was bought with private funds.

The Reagan's:

The Reagans were often criticized for the $209,508 cost. The china was not funded by taxpayers, and was paid for by a J.P. Knapp Foundation donation.

Obama's

The Obama china has been in the works for about a year. The $367,258 cost of the china, all 3,520 pieces, was paid for with private funds donated by the White House Historical Association’s White House Endowment Trust.

So maybe it's still worth changing the tradition and having a charity spend the money on something else.

Of course, maybe like hotel glassware, some of it goes home in the guest's luggage.

 

[DavidJames]

Right, a person whose been working for women's rights her whole life is sexist toward women.

Of course, just like liberals are the real racists. The Rover strategy.

 

[sunmaster14]

Yes, they totally stole it—except they didn't.

Wow, despite Politifact's dishonest rating system meant to cover for the Clintons' perfidy, it is even worse than I had thought. They both stole and illegally and unethically solicited gifts:

For example, lawmakers were skeptical of the estimated value of $240 for a John Quincy Adams-signed original land grant from 1826. There was also a large Coach leather travel bag, which the White House estimated at $200 but which investigators found priced at $498 to $698, and a Tiffany necklace valued at $150 but that Tiffany's valued at $450 to $1,000.

There were instances of a twisted paper trail in which the National Park Service thanked donors for certain items but never formally added them to the permanent White House collection, which meant the Clintons could take them for themselves or for the Clinton Library.

...

Among the aspects of the case that lawmakers found troubling was the apparent violation of the ban on soliciting gifts. It’s fine under the law to accept someone’s generosity, but you can’t tell them what you want. This came up in regards to a portion of the goods the Clintons kept -- about $38,000 worth of goods given to Hillary Clinton in December 2000. That was after she won her Senate race in New York, but before she took office, at which point accepting such gifts would have violated Senate rules. Clinton had created a gift registry at Borsheim’s Fine Jewelry and Gifts. This yielded 16 rimmed soup bowls worth $2,352 and a soup tureen worth $1,365, among other items.

Even before the registry episode, the White House had retained an interior decorator who, according to the report, coordinated 43 of the 45 furniture gifts received over the Clintons’ eight years.

A gift registry? For a politician taking office? And people wonder why the Clintons' generate such revulsion. Americans at least like to see a little bit of shame and remorse from their unethical douchebag politicians, even if it is feigned.

 

[Magrat]

Wow, despite Politifact's dishonest rating system meant to cover for the Clintons' perfidy, it is even worse than I had thought. They both stole and illegally and unethically solicited gifts:



A gift registry? For a politician taking office? And people wonder why the Clintons' generate such revulsion. Americans at least like to see a little bit of shame and remorse from their unethical douchebag politicians, even if it is feigned.

Are you friends with Kyoon?

 

[WildCat]

They couldn't have taken anything! Remember, they were "flat broke" when they left the White House.

And homeless!

 

[RobRoy]

So maybe it's still worth changing the tradition and having a charity spend the money on something else.

I was considering the same idea last night, especially given the state of affairs when Obama entered office. It seems something of an extravagance, even if private funds paid for it, when the country was reeling under the economic recession. At the same time, maybe there is something to be said for having a new set to further distinguish the current administration from the previous? I don't think I have a good answer for this, but it does seem a touch wasteful.

Of course, maybe like hotel glassware, some of it goes home in the guest's luggage.

I would think that at least one plate ends up as a memento in the Obama household.

Wow, despite Politifact's dishonest rating system meant to cover for the Clintons' perfidy, it is even worse than I had thought. They both stole and illegally and unethically solicited gifts:

Asked and answered.