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I ching is advanced knowledge

Here's a good site for Terence McKenna's insights into the I Ching:

http://www.levity.com/eschaton/waveexplain.html

As you can see, it is a long sequence of mathematical operations, each applied with no theoretical justification, which eventually results in an apparently chaotic function.

This function is then more or less matched to great events of history, a sport similar to the experiments being done today with random quantum fluctuations, and laden with similar amounts of shoehorning and wishful thinking.

Naturally, it all ends in 12/21/2012, which you may notice, is becoming something of a bandwagon for the eschatology crowd.
 
Kilik said:
I'm thinking of what to say, and what replies should go in what thread, or be their own thread
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It's too much. Just pick one limited area, tell us what it is here in this thread, and we will be happy to pursue it right here. Don't start multiple threads or you will suffer a considerable loss in credibility - which is already starting to be a problem, as you can see.
 
ALso, everything is an octave, each oactave can be considered a world.
 
Kilik said:
ALso, everything is an octave, each oactave can be considered a world.
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Is anyone else thinking of a teenage Kumar? Well anyways yeah...
 
What, everything is an octave? I am an octave? So is this mouse I am using an octave, and so is the mug of coffee on my desk an octave?

An octave is a doubling of frequency. Or are you working from another definition of the word?
 
Everything is in an octave, a doubling, and vibration seeks it's own level of vibration and like vibrations. But the double can be more than the sum of it's parts. The Earth realm is often called the Triple World Realm. That consists of the physical universe and many other planes, possibly like 20 or 30 realms even, I'm not totally sure on the exact amount. Both the universe and mind realms are 10 directional. Primordial Ki is one of the first manifestations in the triple world realm, and connected to God, Yawheh, Jehova, or Ya Ho Wa Ho, or absolute principles which transend realms and dimensions; every thing is also at the same thime a chain connected by always giving and receiving, which is beyond 3 dimensions. That's my limited understanding which is not exact

http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/archetypes.htm

http://www.prs.org/gallery-kabblh.htm

http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/IChing_and_dna.htm

http://faculty.clintoncc.suny.edu/f...o 101/Bio 101 Lectures/Chemistry/chemistr.htm

http://www.geocities.com/jussaymoe/TOL/tol3.htm
 
Kilik, please stop posting so many links, or at least understand that no-one here is going to bother reading them when you saturate this thread with URLs. I think you have posted 21 links so far. What are you hoping to achieve by doing this?

That consists of the physical universe and many other planes, possibly like 20 or 30 realms even, I'm not totally sure on the exact amount.
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There are 27 realms. I counted.


Edit: make that 23 links. You posted two more while I was writing.
 
And by BaGua, you mean exactly what?

It is always useful to make sure that we are talking about the same thing when using labels...just as in my Qi question on the other thread.
 
Kilik said:
The Earth realm is often called the Triple World Realm. That consists of the physical universe and many other planes, possibly like 20 or 30 realms even, I'm not totally sure on the exact amount.
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I have to confess that I'm not totally clear on the amount either.

Irish. ;)
 
Kilik said:
Bagua means 8 trigrams.

Qi could be another thread
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BZZZTT!

Wrong answer..and I'm not going to waste time discussing with someone who doesn't know what a 'gua' is...don't let the gate hit you on the rear on the way out.

Now, for double or nothing, would you like to define 'Qi', which has already been asked in the Ki thread?
 
It can mean different things. It could refer to North, east, south, west,. It could refer to say, water over fire, or a lake and thunder.
 
It can be *used* in all of those ways, but they are based on misunderstandings, or watered down transmissions, and add to the confusion...
The exact meaning of the characters and radicals that make up the word 'Qi', tell us what it is..everything else is an added layer of obfuscation.

The same goes for the popular misunderstanding of what a gate is, and how it properly applies to Bagua...

And don't get me started on 'Tai Chi'....
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And don't get me started on 'Tai Chi'....
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Not to be pedantic[he lied], but the character 'Chi' in 'Tai Chi' isn't the same as 'Chi' meaning "breath", or "energy", or what have you.

I believe the Pinyin romanization is "taijiquan" vs "qi" and Wade-Giles "T'ai Chi Ch'uan" vs "Ch'i" (note apostrophes).

And as to the number of realms, let's see: You've got the Prime Material Plane, Negative and Positive Energy Planes, four Elemental Planes, four Para-Elemental Planes, eight Quasi-Elemental Planes, the Ethereal Plane, the Astral Plane, and 17 Outer Planes. So, Kilik, your estimate of 20-30 realms is too low.
 
I don't speak Chinese either, but I understand that it's tricky to translate, and that characters that sound the same to a Western ear like mine can have radically different meanings.

Doesn't the "gua" in "Ba gua Zhang" (the martial art) mean "trigram" so that the whole name means something like "eight trigrams fist"?
 
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