How Do You Define Knowledge?

[Roboramma]

But I thought we had already established that the statement was not true.

All you're doing is showing that the statement is ambiguous. If we read it to mean "there is a real person named spiderman who was bitten by a radioactive spider and now has superpowers because of that" then, no, that's not true. If you read it to mean, "there is a story in which there is a character..." then yes, that statement is true.

I don't see any problem with that. Yes, statements are ambiguous, but so what? That doesn't mean that a particular interpretation of the statement isn't either true or false.

Stories are not true. But they aren't false either because there is no intention that they communicate the fact of any matter.

No, some stories are true and some are false, but the fact that they are false isn't particularly important because we all know they are false.
It really is false that a person was bit by a radioactive spider and subsequently developed superpowers. It's just not particularly interesting to point that out because we all already know it.

 

[Nichiro]

In Hindu scriptures, Knowledge is known as GYANA" which can be broken down as GYA+NA

GYA is the last letter of samskrit alphabet. NA means nothing, Not , None etc.
All knowledge is contained in words and words are made up of letters and consonents.
Everything that is to be known lies in words which have a soul called Artha or Meaning..
If you know till GYA , beyond which is NA means there is nothing to know is complete knowledge.

Such people who are knoledgable are known as "GYANI.

Nichiro

 

[Roboramma]

In Hindu scriptures, Knowledge is known as GYANA" which can be broken down as GYA+NA

GYA is the last letter of samskrit alphabet. NA means nothing, Not , None etc.
All knowledge is contained in words and words are made up of letters and consonents.
Everything that is to be known lies in words which have a soul called Artha or Meaning..
If you know till GYA , beyond which is NA means there is nothing to know is complete knowledge.

Such people who are knoledgable are known as "GYANI.

Nichiro

What I got out of this post: znothing.

 

[Robin]

All you're doing showing that the statement is ambiguous

I don't agree it is ambiguous.

If we read it to mean "there is a real person named spiderman who was bitten by a radioactive spider and now has superpowers because of that"...

But I have already stipulated that the person does not intend that.

If you read it to mean, "there is a story in which there is a character..."

Why would the speaker wish to convey the information that is already understood?

The statement is neither more nor less than "Spiderman gained his super powers from being bitten by a radio-active spider"

No, some stories are true and some are false, but the fact that they are false isn't particularly important because we all know they are false.

I am talking about fictional stories obviously. When an author informs us that Mandy came out of the all-night Vurt-u-want clutching a bag of goodies, or that "Snake" Ganning was not an intelligent, nor a particularly interesting criminal, they are not intending to make true statements.

So we can probably agree that these are not true statements.

The bone of contention seems to be that you say that these kinds of statements are false, whereas I say that, since they are not intended to be true, they are neither true nor false. Do you agree that this is the crux of the disagreement?

 

[Nichiro]

What I got out of this post: znothing.

In such a case a chimps brain is better at deciphering things.

 

[Internet Ministry]

'Foolishness'
1 Corinthians 3:19

 

[mactonite]

Foolishness: Resulting from misinformation; unwise