Homeopathy Demonstration Advice?

Peacock said:
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if I could get some advice. I'm working on a presentation for school, and would like to drink a 1oz bottle of homeopathic Conium maculatum (Hemlock) in front of the class. ...
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One effective demonstration is to actually mix up a common homeopathic treatment in front of the class. Something like Nat Mur, and only to about 6C.

Something like this (you are welcome to steal this, I stole it from Usenet!):
1)Take ½ teaspoon of sea salt and dissolve into 1 cup of distilled water in a bottle.
2)Shake well.
3)This is a 1C solution (ratio 1/100).
4)Take ½ teaspoon of the 1C solution and put it a bottle with 1 cup of distilled water, throw out the 1C solution.
5)Shake well.
6)This is a 2C solution (ratio 1/10000).
7)Take ½ teaspoon of the 2C solution and put it a bottle with 1 cup of distilled water, throw out the 2C solution.
8)Shake well.
9)This is a 3C solution (1/1000000).
10)Take ½ teaspoon of the 3C solution and put it a bottle with 1 cup of distilled water, throw out the 3C solution.
11)Shake well.
12)This is a 4C solution (1/100000000).
13)Take ½ teaspoon of the 4C solution and put it a bottle with 1 cup of distilled water, throw out the 4C solution.
14)Shake well.
15)This is a 5C solution (1/10000000000).
16)Take ½ teaspoon of the 5C solution and put it a bottle with 1 cup of distilled water, throw out the 5C solution.
17)Shake well.
18)This is a 6C solution (1/1000000000000).
 
Civilized Worm said:
I Britian it is regulated, you can buy the sugar pills in any chemist.
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It is regulated in the USA as well- just not well-regulated. On neither side of the pond is proof of efficacy required, nor can there be chemical assays for dosage control. When one buys a homeopathic (or herbal) product, one relies entirely on faith in the manufacturer.
 
JJM said:
It is regulated in the USA as well- just not well-regulated. On neither side of the pond is proof of efficacy required, nor can there be chemical assays for dosage control. When one buys a homeopathic (or herbal) product, one relies entirely on faith in the manufacturer.
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Wrong for the UK, in the UK they can only sell homoeopathic products if they can show that they are physically inactive.
active ingredients (if any) must be listed seperatley from homoeopathic "ingredients". Adulteration of herbal and or homoeopathic remedies is taken very seriously here.


And as for "trusting the manufacturer", you do realise that many are the same manufactures who make real medicine, don't you?
That's one of the many things which is so funny about the "big pharma" CTs.
 
brodski said:
Wrong for the UK, in the UK they can only sell homoeopathic products if they can show that they are physically inactive.
active ingredients (if any) must be listed seperatley from homoeopathic "ingredients".
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No, I said manufacturers don't have to prove efficacy. I wonder how one proves inactivity ...
brodski said:
Adulteration of herbal and or homoeopathic remedies is taken very seriously here.
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As it is here. However, unless one is suspicious, it is hard to find.
brodski said:
And as for "trusting the manufacturer", you do realise that many are the same manufactures who make real medicine, don't you?

That's one of the many things which is so funny about the "big pharma" CTs.
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Heh.
 
JJM said:
No, I said manufacturers don't have to prove efficacy. I wonder how one proves inactivity ...
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In the UK there are 2 schemes under which homoeopathic medicines can be sold (in addition to "Product Licences of Right" which were issued for medicines already on sale in 1971 when the Medicines Act was implemented.

Under the "Simplified Scheme", the remedies must be sufficiently dilute to guarantee that they can have no effects whatsoever their safety.

Under the new "National Rules Scheme" (which allows manufacturers to make claims about what the "medicine" is supposed to treat without demonstrating efficacy) the manufacturer has to provide "safety data" unless it is made from "a stock that is commonly found in food", made from a licensed medical product on general sale and of the same dosage or less as that medical product, or unless it is at least diluted 1 to 1024 "and is not a material of biological origin".

See this page on the MHRA site and the documents linked from it.
 
brodski said:
And as for "trusting the manufacturer", you do realise that many are the same manufactures who make real medicine, don't you? \
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Can you give a citation for that? It seems too incredible to believe.
 
Peacock said:
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if I could get some advice. I'm working on a presentation for school, and would like to drink a 1oz bottle of homeopathic Conium maculatum (Hemlock) in front of the class. I was wondering what dilution to purchase. I know anything over 12X is just alcohol, but would it be safe to drink a whole bottle at 3X? Also, I get conflicting answers on which is actually considered more potent by homeopaths. Some say low dilutions are better for immediate relief, some say high dilutions are best. All opinions are appreciated!

Thanks,
Peacock
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This kind of demonstration is basically useless. My reading about homeopathy indicates that the alleged effects of a remedy only affect someone suffering from the specific malady the remedy was prescribed to relieve. So, for example, if you are not suffering from insomnia, the homeopathic sleeping potion will do nothing for (or to) you. (according to the homeopaths, of course)
 
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