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Hell is real!

Christians have never had a problem with lying (or going along with one) as long as it’s in the name of the holy sprite.
 
Man experiences 23 minutes in hell, and in retaliation makes us experience it for 5 times as long.
Some points that made me laugh (not counting the ones already pointed out)
1. He wasn't dreaming... I mean, yeah, he was asleep at the time, but he wasn't dreaming. That's for damn sure!
2. He shows no emotion when describing hell. Me, I laugh when I retell a funny story, may experience a tear when I share a sad one, tend to tense up when retelling someone about something that made me angry.
Based on this, I have to assume that hell is boring... boring, and not that painful, hurtful, scary, or anything else. And also, meeting jesus isn't that impressive either, because whatever he discusses, it's in monotone.
3. In hell we get superpowers!! We can identify exact distances, tempatures, and read demon's minds.
4. Go to 1:08 to see the hilarious "social film" complete with cheesy voiceovers. (Ron Reagan went to hell!...)
5. It's nice to know that in hell, people will take the time out from their eternal damnation to warn you not to come down.... showing that humans remain more compasionate then god, EVEN WHILE BURNING IN HELL.
6. Demons begin leading you to hell, first they are "syropy sweet" and then later become... well, rude. (Hey dumbass, maybe at that point you should have turned around.)
7. What do all these stories have in common (besides being stupid)? They completely bypass the judgement stage... do not pass go, go directly to hell. Hmmm... that's not the way I heard it was, but whatever. It's their religion, I suppose they can make it up any way they like.
 
If Hell were real, and God were as described, I'd recommend everyone refuse to believe in Jesus so all humans ever would be thrown into Hell

Perhaps a complete trashing of all God's endeavors will wake Him up to the foolishness He has engaged in. When God is sitting up there with Jesus and Elijah and whoever the heck the other raised up person was, and maybe Mary, and not too many other people, maybe He'll regret His ways...and be not proud of His efforts.
 
Beerina said:
If Hell were real, and God were as described, I'd recommend everyone refuse to believe in Jesus so all humans ever would be thrown into Hell

Perhaps a complete trashing of all God's endeavors will wake Him up to the foolishness He has engaged in. When God is sitting up there with Jesus and Elijah and whoever the heck the other raised up person was, and maybe Mary, and not too many other people, maybe He'll regret His ways...and be not proud of His efforts.
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Yeah, that'll show him! Take that God! In your face!

-Elliot
 
Cheap Thrills said:
Hell is other people. Jean-Paul Sartre
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I think No Exit is a quite overrated play (Dirty Hands is *outstanding*). The problem with the line "hell is other people" line is that it's anti-climactic. You're surrounded by people in life. And you're stuck with people in hell. Shrug. What's the difference? Is that the point?

-Elliot
 
elliotfc said:
No, there's the free will thing. -Elliot
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So he doesn't know what will happen because he chooses not to? Or it's impossible? Which I doubt because he could create a duplicate universe and run it on fast forward to see what will happen, if nothing else.
 
Just a quick question, so I don't have to watch the movie at all: Was this guy shilling for a book or film, or taking donations of some sort, as a result of this "witnessing"? If so, this puts him in the same class of ripoffs as the every-unpopular Kaz, whom Rob Lancaster beautifully demolished.
 
Beerina said:
So he doesn't know what will happen because he chooses not to?
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Maybe. It might be akin to the old "can God create a rock he can't lift" thing. Free will might be that rock. If God sets out to allow his created to make their own decisions without God's knowledge/interference, he can succeed in doing so. This appears to limit his omniscience, yet it's actually a manifestation of omnipotence.

Or...he does know what will happen, but refuses to allow that knowledge to interfere with our free will.

Yes, God can definitely make choices. Not all choices fall into the good/evil dichotomy. Creativity, in fact, allows for innumerable choices to be made.

What we perceive as evil (death, pain, suffering) is, I guess, relatively evil to God. It's not essential evil that can not be handled, overcome, addressed, etc. Some call this the Christian cop-out, we just can't understand the big picture that God understands. If it's true, calling it a cop-out is superfluous.

Or it's impossible?
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If God sets out to give us free will, no, I don't think he will then take it away, or negate it, or override it.

Which I doubt because he could create a duplicate universe and run it on fast forward to see what will happen, if nothing else.
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You're looking at this from a result-oriented viewpoint.

Let's say you give your kid a sports car. Five years later he/she gets in an accident, high-speed one, and dies. Does the result determine how we should view the gift?

From the mundane to the ephermeral...take intelligence. That too is a gift (or just work with that idea for the moment). Can intelligence be used for evil purposes? Sure. Does that result determine how we should view the gift of intelligence (again, assuming that too is a gift)?

-Elliot
 
Zep said:
Just a quick question, so I don't have to watch the movie at all: Was this guy shilling for a book or film, or taking donations of some sort, as a result of this "witnessing"? If so, this puts him in the same class of ripoffs as the every-unpopular Kaz, whom Rob Lancaster beautifully demolished.
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I've seen commercials on late night TV 3 times in the last week for his book- 23 Minutes in Hell. It's being sold along with another book titled "Heaven is Real"- that one apparently written by some lady who went to heaven and came back to write about it.

The commercial calls the books "Irrefutable Evidence" (apparently of the existance of both hell and heaven). But that shouldn't come as any surprise- we know that for many Xians there's a big difference in the standard of evidence needed to prove hell and the quality of evidence required to prove something like evolution.
 
I used to think Hell as being an eternity of listening to Kim Carnes and Micheal Bolton in concert. But now I think maybe Hell is an eternity of watching that video.
 
With all of the movie clips that made up his little film, maybe someone in Hollywood should expose him to the hell of a copyright infringement lawsuit.
 
I distinctly remember this guy - being one of Satan's chosen ones with my family damned for four generations, I get to handle new arrivals - he was so boring that we decided to let him go back to Earth.

We had a right to-do with St Pete over this guy. The arrangement is that I get all hypocritical christians & muslims, charlatans and frauds for the 1000 year red-hot poker treatment. St Pete keeps mistaking "frauds" for "bores".

You'd think god could at least get the old fella a hearing aid........
 
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