Have you ever had a "religious experience"?

arthwollipot said:
I hope not. I'm very fond of choral music, and there's very little of that that isn't religious. Personally I think that Handel's Hallelujah Chorus is one of the most incredible pieces of music ever written.
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It has its moments, but I got a little weary of having to sing it every Christmas for eight years.
 
VanillaCone said:
Wow, the Web page Minister of Truth cites has got to be one of the most elaborately constructed practical jokes I've seen in a long time. I guess the joke is to get people to keep reading and reading until they ultimately realize it says absolutely nothing, and makes no assertions whatsoever. It's really not that funny, but still kind of impressive. In sort of a pointless way.
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You'll realize when you've been here a while that it's not a joke, and these people show up here from time to time. Truly scary that they are incapable of realizing how deluded they are.
 
I have had one. It was tremendously intense-- like drugs must be I suppose. I suddenly understood how Christians can sing such smarmy songs about their God; I suddenly wanted to sing some to mine! (I resisted. It'd only have embarrassed us both.)
 
arthwollipot said:
I hope not. I'm very fond of choral music, and there's very little of that that isn't religious. Personally I think that Handel's Hallelujah Chorus is one of the most incredible pieces of music ever written.
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I've had a religious experience sort of. I was in my church's chorus and at Christmas time was singing the Halleujah Chorus under hot lights. You have to take in a lot of oxygen when you sing that piece. Essentially hyperventilating. Yes it was elating. And I was praying for a sick cousin of mine. End result, the cousin died. So much for religious experiences.
 
I wasn't a christian ever, or religious for that matter.But the closest I've got of getting that "fuzzy feeling and feeling a presence was with Raelism.

They say they're atheists(for stupid reasons) so I approached this one with bit more openness.

I did reach a point where I would just quote from teh works of the founder, becuase they just said what I was experiencing and "understanding" and this is, and WAS actually, curious at the time.
I remember looking at trees and seeing them as these pretty intelligent designs made up by aliens(I know it's insane). I did look up at the universe as the thing teeming with life.
You do start to think you know things becausae it comes in a book.
And this is coming from someone who WAS an atheist before. Just not a good skeptic, I must add.
I even when to a forum and defend the idea that aliens that could have created life and I actually presented the book as evidence.
As I typed my replies to them I felt as if I had to protect the word of the extraterrestrials, becuase if I didn't the would wouldn't turn realian and the aliens would come.

I was criticised by everyone, which I now understand.

This was only for about 2, 3 weeks.

I somehow got a sort of attraction to the criticisms of this and believe it or not, it stopped with this website, along with many other stupid beliefs of mine.

These cults and religions just give you the sense of "glitter".
They're easy paths for a glitter filled world. There's all sort of variaties, just pick one. There was even one for me! and I was non-religious!
The guy was able to go around that and still make me believe in some nonsense.

I certainly did learn a bit more than if I was skeptical from the beggining. I guess I have a bit of knowledge to how these beliefs come to be. And it's surprising that in no matter how many stories you have, and cults, they are built from this framework that is exectly the same in all of them.
Even conspiracy theories.

I'll stop typing now.
 
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MINISTERofTRUTH said:
Yreligious experience.My thinking became flawless. This aligned the axis of my mind such that it was pointing directly towards truths there are 2 planes of reality.I told you that truth is not accepted !
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(Major snippage mine)

:seerrrr:

It would appear that DJJ's replacement has joined the forums.
 
kellyb said:
I had a very, very intense and powerful "religious experience" when I was 20.
In retrospect, I was extremely sleep deprived and basically had a nervous breakdown of some sort. (I was under a whole lot of stress). It was the product of total psychological desperation. When you really, really need something to be true, your mind will make it true.

I'm an atheist now.
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This is the reason a lot of cults pull the old sleep deprivation trick on you. Landmark Forum seminars are notorious for it. They keep you up late on homework, have you discuss very emotional issues.....you're ripe for a breakdown. A lot of people have very "religious" type breakthroughs while sleep deprived and stressed out.
 
Miss Anthrope said:
This is the reason a lot of cults pull the old sleep deprivation trick on you. Landmark Forum seminars are notorious for it. They keep you up late on homework, have you discuss very emotional issues.....you're ripe for a breakdown. A lot of people have very "religious" type breakthroughs while sleep deprived and stressed out.
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"Breakthroughs" or "breakdowns"?
 
Lonewulf said:
So, I'm asking anybody, whether they are or were Buddhist or Christian, Hindu or Muslim, if they've ever had what they would describe as any kind of a "religious experience" -- whether or not you are currently an atheist, and have come to question said experiences.
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Why did you leave the Jews out? We don't get religious experiences? Anti Semite!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :rolleyes:

I had a religious experience. My parents forced me to get bar mitvahed. Ever since I have been an aethist. I am a very religious aethist. Every Sunday I kill a goat as an offering to the spagetti monster. He hates goats. I drink a Christian baby's blood and the tooth fairy drops in. Don't where white after Labor day, The tooth fairy used to be a fashion desinger when he lived in NY back in the 80's.
 
Miss Anthrope said:
This is the reason a lot of cults pull the old sleep deprivation trick on you. Landmark Forum seminars are notorious for it. They keep you up late on homework, have you discuss very emotional issues.....you're ripe for a breakdown. A lot of people have very "religious" type breakthroughs while sleep deprived and stressed out.
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Not to mention the sexual repression.
 
VanillaCone said:
The problem with "religious experiences" is that their significance is subjective and completely in the eye of the beholder. A true believer might, say, accidentally spill a bag of Jelly Bellies on his coffee table, see the image of Jesus and shout "hallelujah!" whereas I would just scoop them up and put them back in the bag. Except I would toss out the black ones. I don't like licorice.
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Stop making me hungry.
 
Except I would toss out the black ones. I don't like licorice.
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I can't stand the black ones either. Red licorice YES!

I don't know if this counts as a religious experiences but I still get a "twang" when I hear the Star Spangled Banner sang when the get to the .....and the land of the....Free....and the home of the....brave.....

It gets me every time.

I was raised a Baptist, during my teen years I really really wanted to experience what people around me seemed to be getting. I prayed myself silly trying to get it also. God didn't answer my prayers. Sad isn't it. So in my opinion, God made me the atheist I am today.

Susan
 
Oh yes. While picking wild blueberries, I once stumbled upon an untouched clearing with so much blueberries, it felt like discovering manna in the desert. Suddenly, an entire passage of Menaud, maître draveur (and possibly Maria Chapdelaine) made a lot more sense...

/I actually come from the land of blueberries.
 
Freethinker said:
You'll realize when you've been here a while that it's not a joke, and these people show up here from time to time. Truly scary that they are incapable of realizing how deluded they are.
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VanillaCone said:
Wow, the Web page Minister of Truth cites has got to be one of the most elaborately constructed practical jokes I've seen in a long time. I guess the joke is to get people to keep reading and reading until they ultimately realize it says absolutely nothing, and makes no assertions whatsoever. It's really not that funny, but still kind of impressive. In sort of a pointless way.
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Are these excellent examples of absolute stupidity, ignorance and arrogance ?

One way in which you can tell if you are a complete idiot or not, is to see if you can figure out on your own, the complete construct of reality. If you can not, then you have little to speak of. If, on the other hand, the axis of your mind points away from beliefs and towards truths instead, it doesn't take long to surpass the achievements of Albert Einstein.

If you can't do that, then you are basically a useless twit that satisfies ones self in a fraction of a second by jumping to a conclusion. By doing so, the jumping that is, it does not become necessary to use, nor need, any intellect. Since such people can not access the truth, due to being believers, thus accepting less than truths as satisfactory, their only option left is to change the subject, meaning to run away from the original topic.

The problem at hand is that due to the vast number of fools on this planet who jump to immediate conclusions, 1% of the population is being tormented, thanks to the small minded still practicing the brick age function of the mind, known as Belief-Disbelief.

Such people believe whatever they are told to believe. This is why they all in general behave the same way. The psychiatrists have stated that this 1% of the population is experiencing Hallucination and Delusions. The small minded ask no questions, perform no analysis, but simply accept what others accept, and the others accepted what other others accepted, and the other others accepted what ....... , and so on. What is stated by the psychiatrists, continues to spread until it becomes accepted by a majority.

An excellent example of such insanity practiced by the small minded, is to reject the codes that I have exposed, while being certain that they are in the right when doing so, yet at the same time they are completely incapable of presenting the evidence that justifies their certainty. This is a flawed certainty. Thus they do not receive the $100,000 reward for presenting such evidence, nor do they even give the slightest effort to examine the codes closely.

However, what is interesting, is that if within the codes there was information that I said could be used to disable the nuclear bomb that someone had chained them to with a count down timer ticking, suddenly they would examine the codes very carefully.

The reason for this, is that these small minded people do not have the mental capacity to extend their mind far enough to be concerned about anyone else other than themselves.

Thus they only respond appropriately if that matter at hand also, or only, concerns themselves.

http://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode2.htm

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