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Happy Funtime FMOTL Adventure... (HELP REQUIRED)

They do however, fit the original definition of "outlaw" - one who is outside the law (and its protection)
 
They do however, fit the original definition of "outlaw" - one who is outside the law (and its protection)
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If only the law allowed them that option, they would disappear overnight, one way or another. ;)
 
With regards to all of My Special Guy's correspondence which he has appended with "Without prejudice..." and the usual hocus pocus, as Freeloaders are wont to do... can I still present that to the court?

I know that "without prejudice" can be used in (actual, non-woo) common law to indicate that a particular exchange, be it verbal or written, can't be used as evidence in court, but I also know that these exchanges must be part of a genuine attempt to reach a settlement. To my mind, FMOTL woo does not constitute a genuine attempt to reach a settlement (other than my FMOTL asserting that he is totally being honest and genuine x infinity), and I should be able to present his correspondence.
 
WhenDanSaysJump said:
I know that "without prejudice" can be used in (actual, non-woo) common law to indicate that a particular exchange, be it verbal or written, can't be used as evidence in court, but I also know that these exchanges must be part of a genuine attempt to reach a settlement.
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Does it mean it can't be used at all, or just that it can't be taken as an admission of facts? For instance, if I said, "Without prejudice, let's say I agree to paying for X", that couldn't be used as an admission that I'm required or willing to pay for X, but if I said, "Let's say I agree to paying for X", it could be held to be so?

Could you enter these statements into evidence, not to show that he admits to anything in particular, but just to show his state of mind? Again, if I was to say something like, "Without prejudice, the unicorn in my garage has promised to **** some gold which I can use to pay my electric bill, so long as the learned council agrees to provide her with a week's worth of hay", you could present that to the court to show I'm either mentally ill, or just screwing with you, without asserting that I'm admitting that the gold ******** unicorn actually exists.
 
WhenDanSaysJump said:
With regards to all of My Special Guy's correspondence which he has appended with "Without prejudice..." and the usual hocus pocus, as Freeloaders are wont to do... can I still present that to the court?

I know that "without prejudice" can be used in (actual, non-woo) common law to indicate that a particular exchange, be it verbal or written, can't be used as evidence in court, but I also know that these exchanges must be part of a genuine attempt to reach a settlement. To my mind, FMOTL woo does not constitute a genuine attempt to reach a settlement (other than my FMOTL asserting that he is totally being honest and genuine x infinity), and I should be able to present his correspondence.
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All without prejudice actually means is that the matter can be revisited at a point in the future.
 
Normally you can't bring settlement discussions into court regardless of whether it actually says without prejudice because it is presumed that all settlement discussions are without prejudice. I'm not sure why you need his letters and whatnot as evidence but if it were me and I needed them in I would just include them and see if the freeman objected to that. He probably wouldn't because usually the freeman is trying to use the same letters as evidence of his own. They don't go through all that trouble only to object to having these documents produced in court.
 
I think my last post lacked clarity. I wouldn't be bringing them along to present as evidence, strictly speaking, but just as reference material for myself. Hope that clears stuff up :)
 
DGM said:
If I could be so bold as to ask, What is your concern in this case. (sometimes I just need to know the players role........and without a program).


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I have PMed you. :)

For the rest of those reading : sorry to do so, I just prefer to not mention any more than I have to about the details of my job when I'm online. I can assure you that you're not missing out on anything particularly thrilling, though.
 
We've now received an updated fee schedule from our Freeloader.

His hourly rate has increased by 400%. Just fancy that!
 
WhenDanSaysJump said:
We've now received an updated fee schedule from our Freeloader.

His hourly rate has increased by 400%. Just fancy that!
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So he is the freeloader, but it is YOU who desires performance from him without payment or recompense?

Isn't it you who expects action from him without payment, and does that not make you the freeloader?
 
FreemanMenard said:
So he is the freeloader, but it is YOU who desires performance from him without payment or recompense?

Isn't it you who expects action from him without payment, and does that not make you the freeloader?
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From the OP:
His initial gripe is that we haven't accepted his "remittance" (essentially, the bills being sent back to us with the giro slip at the bottom signed in lieu of any genuine cash transaction)
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Someone is trying to get out of paying what he owes for whatever goods or services were provided to him.

Incidentally, the supply of goods or services in exchange for payment is actually a contract. All whenDanSaysJump is doing is trying to enforce the contract.
 
FreemanMenard said:
So he is the freeloader, but it is YOU who desires performance from him without payment or recompense?

Isn't it you who expects action from him without payment, and does that not make you the freeloader?
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I would like to hear from you what someone like me, an independent contractor who is NOT an insider to this UCC fantasy of yours is supposed to do when we get a scribble in green felt-tip instead of a valid check.

How exactly does an ordinary individual like myself turn that into the money I need to pay the bills I willingly and cheerfully entered into contract for for food, clothing, power tools, etc.?

No, really...what are the steps, if I get one of these "Please draw on the invisible bank account attached to my incorporated body, thank you?"

Do I carry it to a local bank and say "Here, guys...you know what this is?"

I'd like to hear from anyone who has had success with this, too.
 
I'd like to hear from anyone who has had success with this, too.
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Don't hold your breath on that one.

...and Robert Arthur Menard certainly isn't the one to be asking for answers or proof of anything.... because he has no proof and his answers are always based on untruths.
 
ComfySlippers said:
Don't hold your breath on that one.

...and Robert Arthur Menard certainly isn't the one to be asking for answers or proof of anything.... because he has no proof and his answers are always based on untruths.
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Could you use one to pay Menard for one of his books or DVDs or whatever it is he sells? :cool:
 
FreemanMenard said:
So he is the freeloader, but it is YOU who desires performance from him without payment or recompense?

Isn't it you who expects action from him without payment, and does that not make you the freeloader?
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Did you even bother to read the OP?

Now you owe me for having to explain it to you.
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