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H1N1 second round

BenBurch

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It's very late in the flu season at present. With the change of weather and the large vaccination rate(and prior infected rate), the chance of a major bump is getting lower by the day.

It'll be very interesting to see the studies of the impact of the H1N1 Vaccine at preventing a massive pandemic.
 
paximperium said:
It's very late in the flu season at present. With the change of weather and the large vaccination rate(and prior infected rate), the chance of a major bump is getting lower by the day.

It'll be very interesting to see the studies of the impact of the H1N1 Vaccine at preventing a massive pandemic.
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While I agree for the most part, H1N1 did smolder all last summer which is unusual for flu. We can assume it was because there was little resistance within the population, but we can't rule out something about the virus itself, rather than within the hosts, which resulted in unusual pattern.

Currently according to WHO monitoring, some tropical countries are currently experiencing high rates of H1N1 and in some countries there has been a recent spike in cases of Influenza B.

I've always found it interesting that for a winter seasonal virus there are still regular peaks in cases where the seasons are not similar to our winters.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
While I agree for the most part, H1N1 did smolder all last summer which is unusual for flu. We can assume it was because there was little resistance within the population, but we can't rule out something about the virus itself, rather than within the hosts, which resulted in unusual pattern.

Currently according to WHO monitoring, some tropical countries are currently experiencing high rates of H1N1 and in some countries there has been a recent spike in cases of Influenza B.

I've always found it interesting that for a winter seasonal virus there are still regular peaks in cases where the seasons are not similar to our winters.
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Yup. Still on the look out for the little buggers. I can't wait for the next mutant flu to come by so we can forget good old H1N1 Novel.
 
But the whole point of what we learned the first go round is that H1N1 is no more hazardous than the usual strains.
 
Compare that appeal to emotion to how all the children feel about their dead grandparents, from the usual strains?
 
casebro said:
But the whole point of what we learned the first go round is that H1N1 is no more hazardous than the usual strains.
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It amazes me that despite discussion after discussion, people recall what they believed before the discussions and not anything they should have learned from the discussions.
 
casebro said:
Compare that appeal to emotion to how all the children feel about their dead grandparents, from the usual strains?
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OK, I've made the comparison. Most people feel a tremendous loss when a child they love dies. When a grandparent dies, it is sad, but the loss is not comparable in most cases.
 
casebro said:
Compare that appeal to emotion to how all the children feel about their dead grandparents, from the usual strains?
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Not comparable in many ways;

1. More deaths than the typical flu season

2. Many, Many more pediatric deaths than a typical flu season

3. Many more cases requiring time in the ICU

4. Of those who died, more years of expected life were lost than in a typical flu season by a wide margin. A flu season which kills largely those who have lived most of their expected lifespan does not take as many years of life away as one that mostly kills the young and healthy.
 
And the CDC is headquartered in Georgia. I think maybe this virus is evolving intelligence!
;)
 
Is it pretty much a wash, if someone who is forty something dies ?


It is really a slow day when you you are arguing about who grieves the most when someone dies.

This really deserves a thread of it's own ..
 
But how could you let this thread die? Its so young, think of the Thread Years to be lost!

OH! the Huge Manatee!
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
It amazes me that despite discussion after discussion, people recall what they believed before the discussions and not anything they should have learned from the discussions.
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Yeah , well, what I remember was the predictions that it was going to be the scourge of all man kind, with higher death rates than the 1918 epidemic.

Turns out to be just another flu bug.
 
casebro said:
Yeah , well, what I remember was the predictions that it was going to be the scourge of all man kind, with higher death rates than the 1918 epidemic.
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Where did you supposedly read this? The CDC announcements? WHO? Where exactly?

Turns out to be just another flu bug.
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So you're saying a unique influenza strain that appeared off season, spread faster than any influenza in recent history, killed more children and young people while leaving an older population relatively unscathed that had an immunity against it(from a prior vaccination or infection) while leaving a very light late flu season is "just another flu bug"?

That is one of the most idiotic statements ever.
 
casebro said:
Yeah , well, what I remember was the predictions that it was going to be the scourge of all man kind, with higher death rates than the 1918 epidemic.
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I'd also like to know who said that. Certainly not health officials.
 
BenBurch said:
Not comparable in many ways;

1. More deaths than the typical flu season

2. Many, Many more pediatric deaths than a typical flu season

3. Many more cases requiring time in the ICU

4. Of those who died, more years of expected life were lost than in a typical flu season by a wide margin. A flu season which kills largely those who have lived most of their expected lifespan does not take as many years of life away as one that mostly kills the young and healthy.
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Where can we get comparative statistics on typical flu deaths versus H1N1?
 
casebro said:
Yeah , well, what I remember was the predictions that it was going to be the scourge of all man kind, with higher death rates than the 1918 epidemic.

Turns out to be just another flu bug.
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Your problem appears to be who it is you are relying on for predictions. If some ignorant reporter writes an EOTWAWKI story, that doesn't mean there is a real doomsday prediction being made by knowledgeable scientists. If people don't understand what the WHO has actually announced, that doesn't mean the WHO made the prediction people mistakenly believed.
 
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