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GSIC AUDIO

Yeah, August 20th, I guess.

So I figure, let me freaking order the damn chip now. Amazon doesn't carry it. I google and I find I can order it from Machina Dynamica but not Golden Sound themselves. Edit: Somehow I can buy it from there. I'm going to keep looking.

But check out this sweetness:

Also Now Available! From the Makers of the Intelligent Chip - Special Blank CD-R (Pretreated): $4 each + $2 Shipping
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In a word: YES.

WORDY MC WORDISTA.

I'm not getting it. I'm just immensely amused right now. Like massively amused. AndI swear to you I'm not drinking. I don't drink on Mondays.

But, YES! PRE-TREATED CD-Rs. (How the **** does that even work? I mean, really... isn't the chip fixing an inherent flaw in how the sound is put onto the CD. OMG HEAD SPLODE.)
 
OK, now I'm annoyed.

Machina Dynamics does not have your standard webstore setup. Apparently you just click their paypal button and send money to this guy's Verizon e-mail address.

No major online retailers (Amazon, Overstock, BestBuy) carry it.

Edit: I've e-mailed the retailer to find out the cost for S&H. Hopefully he'll get back to me soon.
 
when it arrives

I still want to see a picture of you triumphantly holding the chip! An historical moment, after all we've been through in this wayward voyage.
 
Forgive me if this has already been brought up in this thread, but has anybody actually tested this GISC in a digital way?

Since cds are after all just binary data, if the GISC changes the disc at all, it would be extremely easy to check. Simply copy one or all of the tracks to your computer before using the GISC, then copy the same ones over afterwards, and compare the binary bit by bit (which many programs are capable of doing).

Los Angeles I recommend you do this (and Kramer you should too) because then both of you will know ahead of time the outcome of the experiment. :p

Even if this thing somehow changes the binary data, I can tell you straight up that it won't be in any meaningful way. Considering that the thing only costs 6 bucks, compared to hundreds of dollars for programs that do the same thing..... Well, despite all the drawbacks of capitalism, at least it lets us judge products based on their price alone (usually)...get my drift?
 
rocketdodger said:
Forgive me if this has already been brought up in this thread, but has anybody actually tested this GISC in a digital way?

Since cds are after all just binary data, if the GISC changes the disc at all, it would be extremely easy to check. Simply copy one or all of the tracks to your computer before using the GISC, then copy the same ones over afterwards, and compare the binary bit by bit (which many programs are capable of doing).

Los Angeles I recommend you do this (and Kramer you should too) because then both of you will know ahead of time the outcome of the experiment. :p

Even if this thing somehow changes the binary data, I can tell you straight up that it won't be in any meaningful way. Considering that the thing only costs 6 bucks, compared to hundreds of dollars for programs that do the same thing..... Well, despite all the drawbacks of capitalism, at least it lets us judge products based on their price alone (usually)...get my drift?
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That poses an interesting question.

I would be all for actually testing the chip that way, but if it does show it to do something to the binary data, could this be isolated by the human ear without using filters and wavform editors to enhance it?

I can't see any way that a slight change in binary data would result in anything but pops and clicks at most. At the very least - it does nothing. (most probable from what I can tell of this device.) But if it did a minor amount of change, it would just change a millisecond's worth of the waveform and oversampling would cover it up.

Would it be better then, to hold the test with several people listening and have them vote seperately on whether they think it's the device or not? As a sound engineer I always find it's best to have more than one set of ears when possible.

I would volunteer to listen in, but I don't think you're in my neck of the woods.
 
I don't think you need to worry about it affecting the binary data. This whole idea is plagued with inconsisancies and flaws. Consider:

Normal CD surfaces are written in a permanent way, so even if this thing could change them, it could only set bits and not unset them.

For it to change the data in any meaningful way it would have to somehow figure out the bit alignment on the disk and write to the exact location corresponding to each bit.

The only way to write bits to cds of any kind is using high energy lasers of specific frequencies (I think) and there is no way it can be done by a little disc without a power supply, I don't care what the jibberish on quantum dots says.

Even if the dot could somehow emit the right photons to write to the disk, the interference from both the plastic case of the GISC and the metal case of the disc player would ruin any accuracy it had.

The verdict-- if this little device does anything to a CD, the only real possibility given current technology is that it somehow f---s up the whole surface, like rubbing it with sand or something, and I doubt very much that it could even do that, given the resilience of CD surfaces.
 
rocketdodger said:
I don't think you need to worry about it affecting the binary data. This whole idea is plagued with inconsisancies and flaws. Consider:

Normal CD surfaces are written in a permanent way, so even if this thing could change them, it could only set bits and not unset them.

For it to change the data in any meaningful way it would have to somehow figure out the bit alignment on the disk and write to the exact location corresponding to each bit.

The only way to write bits to cds of any kind is using high energy lasers of specific frequencies (I think) and there is no way it can be done by a little disc without a power supply, I don't care what the jibberish on quantum dots says.

Even if the dot could somehow emit the right photons to write to the disk, the interference from both the plastic case of the GISC and the metal case of the disc player would ruin any accuracy it had.

The verdict-- if this little device does anything to a CD, the only real possibility given current technology is that it somehow f---s up the whole surface, like rubbing it with sand or something, and I doubt very much that it could even do that, given the resilience of CD surfaces.
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True.

Though I was focusing on the master clock dithering claim this product makes.

Cds/dvd/et. all aren't burned in real time. what master clock would they be referring to?
 
fowlsound said:
Would it be better then, to hold the test with several people listening and have them vote seperately on whether they think it's the device or not? As a sound engineer I always find it's best to have more than one set of ears when possible.
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That is not the way the challenge works. One person made a claim that that person had to substantiate to win the $1mil. It is not a matter of consensus of many people.

Sadly, the claimant bailed out on the test and LostAngeles stepped up to be the claimant just because she wanted to see the test carrried out.
 
SezMe said:
That is not the way the challenge works. One person made a claim that that person had to substantiate to win the $1mil. It is not a matter of consensus of many people.

Sadly, the claimant bailed out on the test and LostAngeles stepped up to be the claimant just because she wanted to see the test carrried out.
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Hmm. Error of my ways - I was thinking more along the lines of testing this as a consumer product or something similar, instead of a claim to the paranormal.
 
Wait, I finally read most of this thread *phew*

I take back my statements, now that I know the GISC doesn't claim to changet the binary data in any way.

Of course, now I am almost positive it is balony. Aligning polarities? wtf.
 
rocketdodger said:
Wait, I finally read most of this thread *phew*

I take back my statements, now that I know the GISC doesn't claim to changet the binary data in any way.

Of course, now I am almost positive it is balony. Aligning polarities? wtf.
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Yeah, I think they knew they couldn't overtly state they change anything in the CD (since it's not rewritable media) or they'd be laughed out of business. So they make pretty ridiculous claims that the average audiophile might mistake for real science.

This reminds me of the laundry balls, the quadro tracker, and my personal favorite: the inset fuel stabalizer.
 
I should announce that a GSIC 30 has been ordered. I would have ordered the 10 disc on, but since we're going to do a group thing... (This means someone else is paying my share of the pizza then. :p)

A copy of Peter and the Wolf has been ordered and as I type this, I realize I need a second one...

Wait, should I have that sent to you, Sez, as the "control?" That way I can't GSIC it and claim, "Aha!"
 
LostAngeles said:
Wait, should I have that sent to you, Sez, as the "control?" That way I can't GSIC it and claim, "Aha!"
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Don't open either package that contain the CDs. Leave the orginal seals, etc. in place. We'll take pictures of the unopened packages before the test starts and we'll tape the opening and "treating." I think this should be OK. Kramer, or anyone else, have a problem with this?

You're gonna win a mil and your whining about the cost of a measly slice of pizza. Feh! :) :) :)
 
OK, crap. You'll get to see the book that I threw in with the first CD too. No biggie. It's just an annotated Grimm.

Hey, at this point, these damn things better work! I could definitely use an easy mil!
 
All right, I got the GSIC today. Forgot to mention it. I opened up the package to inspect it. The damn thing is TINY and came in a little thing of bubble wrap, wrapped in a sheet of paper.

I took some pictures of the package, the instructions, and the chip next to a Playstation memory card and a water bottle cap. (Because they were handy, that's why.)

I'll try and get a pic up of me and the chip later. But for now, enjoy these.

(Before you ask, the chip is being stored in a safe location away from any players of any discs, on, off, plugged and unplugged and all discs, CDs, DVDs, UMDs, and whatever the hell the Gamecube format is. I'm not looking it up right now.)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/Lost_Angeles/IMG_0087.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/Lost_Angeles/IMG_0090.jpg

Right, the picture of the package isn't keeping my amazing Paint done scribbles when I click "Save" or "Save as" I'll hit up a friend for Photoshop, see if that'll work.

Have a kitten picture though:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/Lost_Angeles/IMG_0044.jpg
 
WARNING!

Do not (I repeat, do not) remove the GSIC plastic container from that bubble wrap. That bubble wrap has been specially formulated with MAGNUM AIR POCKETS that prevent the GSIC quantum energy from leaking out of the protective plastic container. Athough this is not mentioned in the accompanying instruction sheet, I know that this is the most important thing --- that bubble wrap is vital to preserving the GSIC from losing its power. During exhaustive independent testing conducted by a reknowned research facility in Honolulu, this effect has been proven to happen and then all your 30 treatments will be rapidly spent, without those magnum AIR POCKETS to restrain that quantum force from escaping.

;)
 
That cat looks a little blurry. Would the GSIC chip work on it? Better definition, less congestion, etc. I'm sure the cat could handle the quantum air pockets in the bubble wrap just fine.
 
blurry cat

No No No, it's Magnum Air Pockets to contain the GSIC Quantum Energy. You obviously don't comprehend the advanced technology of this, ShermanBay.

As for that kitten, does it have a name?

As for that photo I've been bothering her about & Deja now promises is going to be posted --- we anxiously await.
 
It's staying in the bubble wrap! The Magnum air pockets will keep the squarks in!

That's Saul. That picture's from just over a year ago. It was the night we first got these two. The eventual-Ridley (who is currently on my arm) hid but we found Saul and traumatized him some more by trying to get him to sit with us.
 
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