Great news for engineers!

kellyb said:
You guys, like, drive trains and stuff, right?
Do you get to sleep in a caboose at night? That sounds kewl.
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Actually, they got rid of the caboose on most major railroads. Back when they had them though, it was usually the home of the Conductor and Brakemen. Engineer and Fireman usually stayed in hotels that eventually gave a name to a district in town.

The back of the train is now occupied by FRED.

Fnord, it's cabooses.
 
grayman said:
The back of the train is now occupied by FRED.
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"But ... if they get rid of the caboose, how will we know when it's the end of the train?" <-- Once asked by my ex-wife, who is now married to some other poor fool.
 
RenaissanceBiker said:
He didn't actually offer me anything to do it. I simply told him what I will and will not do. We work for different departments of the same company. He doesn't have a PE registered in the project state in his department. I have recommended that he get one of his people registered there but he doesn't see the need. He would rather try to just bully me. My project director is aware of the situation and backs me 100%. He won't get his way.
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I get it now. That isn't unethical. It's just scummy, moronic and idiotic.
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
I think the main reason for the difference in how the public see engineers, lawyers and physicians is they don't get to interact with engineers in the same way.
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On the other hand, engineers don't have the media constantly giving the public a completely fictitious image of the job engineers do. People probably have some vague notion of what engineers do, and they're probably receptive to further explanation, whereas people are generally absolutely positive they already know what lawyers are all about, even though what they know they learned from Hollywood or agenda-driven politicians.

(It's much like the overseas perception of the US; high degree of confidence, little accuracy.)
 
Michael Redman said:
people are generally absolutely positive they already know what lawyers are all about, even though what they know they learned from Hollywood or agenda-driven politicians.
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Don't forget doctors!

There was a show about engineers... Dilbert! What? I drink coffee...

:D
 
Michael Redman said:
By the way, you drive trains, right?
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One of us does. :stone028:

And yes, I'm licensed.

BTW, I took a physics class in college with a group of up and coming engineering students. I truly respect the knowledge involved in what the other types of engineers accomplish.
 
Electrical engineers are weird. They use j for the square root of -1, despite the fact that the rest of the world uses i. I mean, come on!
 
tracer said:
Electrical engineers are weird. They use j for the square root of -1, despite the fact that the rest of the world uses i. I mean, come on!
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But i was already in use for another value, current; and since EEs had it first, j is the proper usage. It's the rest of the world that has it wrong. :D
 
The Atheist said:
I recruit engineers, so you're preaching to the converted here.

I quite frequently have people apply for jobs who think they're engineers because they can spell the word. Part of it is legislative, I'm sure - it's an offence to call yourself a doctor or lawyer if you aren't one. Maybe it should be the same for engineers. If you're not a chartered/registered engineer, you may not use the title. That's how it works in consulting (over here anyway) - if you don't have chartered status, you're an engineering associate, not an engineer.
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IN the states, things are moving this way. In Pennsylvania, You can't call your self an engineer without a PE.
 
Jimbo07 said:
Don't forget doctors!

There was a show about engineers... Dilbert! What? I drink coffee...

:D
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Dilbert is fantasy. Dilbert has no relation to engineers.
IN the states, things are moving this way. In Pennsylvania, You can't call your self an engineer without a PE.
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It doesn't just prevent you from calling you a professional engineer it says you can't do any type of engineering at all. Then again Im not a lawyer. *Rimshot*
 
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technoextreme said:
Dilbert is fantasy. Dilbert has no relation to engineers.

This by far is the most stupidest law I've ever read. It doesn't just prevent you from calling you a professional engineer it says you can't do any type of engineering at all. Retarded. Retarded. Retarded. Retarded.
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No you can do engineering. You just have to have a PE on staff to oversee it. How else do the EITs get their experience?

My problem is that some branches of engineering don't lend themselves well to PEs. I'm a chemE and do all my work in drug delivery. Not something I'd ever persue a PE for.
 
joobz said:
No you can do engineering. You just have to have a PE on staff to oversee it. How else do the EITs get their experience?
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Never mind. Im a freaking idiot. Here is the exemption:
The practice of engineering, land surveying or geology by any person
who acts under the supervision of a professional engineer, professional
land surveyor or geologist, respectively, or by an employe
of a person lawfully engaged in the practice of engineering, land
surveying or geology and who, in either event, does not assume
responsible charge of design or supervisions;
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What does this mean? This just makes me want to kill all lawyers. I love how architects can engineer.
 
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joobz said:
My problem is that some branches of engineering don't lend themselves well to PEs. I'm a chemE and do all my work in drug delivery. Not something I'd ever persue a PE for.
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That's right, PE's are limited to certain fields.
 
tracer said:
Electrical engineers are weird. They use j for the square root of -1, despite the fact that the rest of the world uses i. I mean, come on!
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And even that was a strange choice, because we use j for current density. I propose the use of 'k' instead. No one uses 'k' for anything, do they?

Pop quiz: Which virtually unrecognized genius took to signing letters with the initials "W.O.R.M" after his name?
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
And even that was a strange choice, because we use j for current density. I propose the use of 'k' instead. No one uses 'k' for anything, do they?

Pop quiz: Which virtually unrecognized genius took to signing letters with the initials "W.O.R.M" after his name?
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I see you don't work in thermodynamics.

Mr. Boltzmann would be very upset.
 
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