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Gravy Cleanses Silverstein Quote

TruthSeeker1234

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In his new WTC7 paper, Gravy has misquoted Larry Silverstein.

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse." –Larry Silverstein
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The correct quote must include the word "then", as follows:

"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse." –Larry Silverstein
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This is no minor point, for the word "then" shows causal connection between what is said before, and what is said after.

Gravy, please correct your paper and apologize to anyone who may have been mislead.
 
Consider yourself having the honour of the first and only person I have ever put on my ignore list.
 
TS1234 is correct. "Then" is included. But it is a very pointless.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
This is no minor point, for the word "then" shows causal connection between what is said before, and what is said after.
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"then" does not imply causal connection, then implies that what is stated after occured after, somethign which is already implied by the order of the statements
 
Whether you guys think it is important or not, the word then is clearly what the man said. There must be a hundred places you can listen to the quote for yourselves. I have corrected at least a dozen websites on this already.

When one event follows another, there is not necessarily a causal connection. To think so is the "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" fallacy. However, in the context of a statement by a person speaking on a subject, and he says xxx then yyy, there is a definite implication that the speaker believes there is a causal connection.
 
Steady people, when you have been beaten up as badly as ts1234 has been, you are bound to rush to any tiny victory and exagerate its importance. Have to expect this out of the poor CT.
 
still doesn't prove that the building came down via CD. so the quote if misquoted or not, means nothing in the end.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
When one event follows another, there is not necessarily a causal connection. To think so is the "post hoc, ergo propter hoc" fallacy. However, in the context of a statement by a person speaking on a subject, and he says xxx then yyy, there is a definite implication that the speaker believes there is a causal connection.
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so its only post hoc ergo propter hoc if no one talks about it?
 
However, in the context of a statement by a person speaking on a subject, and he says xxx then yyy, there is a definite implication that the speaker believes there is a causal connection.
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Hahahahahaha. Oh man. That's classic. I should write this **** down.
 
I can't bare it, everybody seems to be laughing at you TS, you are off my ignore list. I have to see for myself your posts. Surely nobody is this silly.

Oh wait...... I see you are.
 
'Then' implies the building collapsed after the firefighters pulled their people out - that's what happened. I'm sure most people could make that connection even if Gravy misquoted Silverstein.

Besides, Gravy was clear enough in his paper; had Silverstein felt that he 'slipped up', he would have asked for that segment to be re-taped and for his 'slip up' not to be included.

That being said, let's stop concentrating on that silly 'pull it' quote, and look at the actual series of events and the physical evidence from that day instead.
 
i have looke dup "then" on dictionary.com

1.at that time: Prices were lower then.
2.immediately or soon afterward: The rain stopped and then started again.
3.next in order of time: We ate, then we started home.
4.at the same time: At first the water seemed blue, then gray.
5.next in order of place: Standing beside Charlie is my uncle, then my cousin, then my brother.
6.in addition; besides; also: I love my job, and then it pays so well.
7.in that case; as a consequence; in those circumstances: If you're sick, then you should stay in bed.
8.since that is so; as it appears; therefore: You have, then, found the mistake? You are leaving tonight then.
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of those only 7 fits how TS1234 claims it was used

what evidence do you have that larry didnt mean in it any other sense? same evidence you have for how he meant "pull?" (IE, "it fits our theory so it must be true")
 
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