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Gravity does not exist

Experiment:


I throw a ball up very hard.

Result with downforce (gravity): it falls back down.

Result without downforce (gravity): it keeps on going up or it gets stuck high up do to aerodynamic resistence.


The ball is thrown up and after some seconds it falls back. Therefore gravity exists.
 
No, no. Therefore a thought experiment exists.

I'm a convert.

Question is clearly right. Gravity exists not.

I've always had my doubts about electromagnetism too.

I have to go nail my seat down. Oh drat- there is no down, because there is no spacetime.
 
RamblingOnwards said:
Noone this stupid has the mental capacity to use a computer.

The only thing anyone will learn from this thread is that sceptics are insanely willing to answer questions and provide proof.
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Hey ... Cut the ad hominem s*** and stick to the issue at hand. You can't do it, can you eh?
 
AWPrime said:
Experiment:


I throw a ball up very hard.

Result with downforce (gravity): it falls back down.

Result without downforce (gravity): it keeps on going up or it gets stuck high up do to aerodynamic resistence.


The ball is thrown up and after some seconds it falls back. Therefore gravity exists.
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You can't just expect us to believe you. Show us proof that the ball falls back.
 
You must because the ball has fallen and you have seen it happen before.


Or are you some kind of fundy testcase that was told throwing things up is satanic?
 
AWPrime said:
You must because the ball has fallen and you have seen it happen before.


Or are you some kind of fundy testcase that was told throwing things up is satanic?
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Look, you ... The burden of proof is on the claimant. It is not my responsibility to throw things around so that I can confirm your stupid theory for you. The burden of proof is on you to do any experiments you propose and prove that you got the predicted results.
 
The late Richard Feynman was mentioned in another thread today, and I thought of him as I read this one. Now, judging from the essays of Feynman I have read, I think if he was asked "Why is it that if we throw a ball into the air it comes back down?", his reply would be something along the lines of "I really don't know why that happens", and his answer would be more honest than any that have appeared in this thread.

Of course, Feynman was a genius and Question is a troll.
 
Well a good practical scientific experiment can be conducted by anyone who follows the instructions.

You do understand anyone or are you being a troll by ignoring an argument/experiment that could prove my point?
 
Iconoclast said:
The late Richard Feynman was mentioned in another thread today, and I thought of him as I read this one. Now, judging from the essays of Feynman I have read, I think if he was asked "Why is it that if we throw a ball into the air it comes back down?", his reply would be something along the lines of "I really don't know why that happens", and his answer would be more honest than any that have appeared in this thread.

[snip ad hominem]
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Aha! We have a confession! Scientists don't really know whether gravity exists!

I won this debate.
 
AWPrime said:
Well a good practical scientific experiment can be conducted by anyone who follows the instructions.

You do understand anyone or are you being a troll by ignoring an argument/experiment that could prove my point?
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This is a very hypocritical stance, because skeptics can rarely be bothered to do experiments proposed by those they dismiss as "woo woos."
 
Question said:
This is a very hypocritical stance, because skeptics can rarely be bothered to do experiments proposed by those they dismiss as "woo woos."
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Usualy because they can't propose a good scientific experiment.
 
AWPrime said:
And question seems to have trouble with the english language.
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Typical unsubstantiated ad hominem assertion to distract from the topic at hand.
 
AWPrime said:
Well a good practical scientific experiment can be conducted by anyone who follows the instructions.

You do understand anyone or are you being a troll by ignoring an argument/experiment that could prove my point?
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In mathematics we can find truth, but in science we can't -- which is to say -- as far as science is concerned we don't know anything.

Feynman was completely comfortable with this reality, he often mentioned in his books that he enjoys this uncertainty. In my example above he probably would have gone on to mention the discoveries of Newton and the fact that his equations were really good but turned out to be incomplete, and he'd talk about Einstein (his very first lecture was in front of Einstein who defended his theory in the face of some heavy grilling by Bohr by the way) and how he'd come up with some different ideas that seemed to be better than Newton's, and he'd talk about Wheelchair Guy et al and how they're working on some other ideas still, but he would finish with: "But the truth is, we really don't know why a ball falls back down after you throw it into the air".
 
AWPrime said:
Usualy because they can't propose a good scientific experiment.
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Lame excuse. You won't do the experiments because you don't want to spend time, effort, or money creating additional evidence for their side.
 
Iconoclast said:
In mathematics we can find truth, but in science we can't -- which is to say -- as far as science is concerned we don't know anything.
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Then it has no place being taught in public schools.
 
Hey. This disbelief stuff is great.

I no longer believe in electromagnetism.

My computer still works, but the fake electric meter thingy no longer rotates, so I no longer have to pay the so called "electricity bill".
 
Question said:
Aha! We have a confession! Scientists don't really know whether gravity exists!

I won this debate.
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Not really. You haven't defined "gravity" so I don't know exactly what you mean by the term, but we DO observe an attractive force between any two massive bodies. So, something exists, we don't know if it's gravity as defined by Newton (most proabbly not), if it's due to massive bodies warping spacetime (possibly), or something else entirely.

So, SOMETHING exists, we don't know what it is.
 
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