god is impossible

[SFB]

Obviously one has to hypothetically suppose God exists, otherwise there would be no problem of evil now would they?

I am agreeing that God could have made all sentient beings happier then they actually are. Given that we are not in a state of maximum logically possible happiness, does this disprove the existence of an omnipotent, omnibenevolent God?

I can give you another possibility so that one does not "obviously" have "hypothetically suppose God exists." This is the way I see it. "Evil" is caused by humans, i.e., human nature.

 

[c4ts]

If God exists and if God is omnipotent, then God could turn logic upside down and abandon all rationality. Because of this potential, any discussion of God is irrational and therefore not worth talking about.

 

[SFB]

If God exists and if God is omnipotent, then God could turn logic upside down and abandon all rationality. Because of this potential, any discussion of God is irrational and therefore not worth talking about.

Yes, and can there be a more fundamental explanation (among the others)? This one is powerful.

Ian, et al, I'd like to consider your response(s).

Thanks c4ts.......

I kinda like this sort of argument, as I don't have to deal with reliance on the bible and presupposition of a god.

I'm not all that familiar with the detailed history of christianity. But I am familiar with general history. Yet, I don't consider this much of a detriment. The history of Xtianity presupposes belief - upon which it's downfall depends.

This belief has human origins which the field of psychology has explained fairly well.

One should presume human nature as "evil" (yes, not all of us), above all else, before attempting to create a god first. Can anyone argue otherwise?

This is, as I see it, fundamental, a starting point on the discussion.

 

[Yahweh]

If God exists and if God is omnipotent, then God could turn logic upside down and abandon all rationality. Because of this potential, any discussion of God is irrational and therefore not worth talking about.

No no no, trying to prove Philosophy... there is really nothing rational you can say to support or deny any Philosophical claim (except Nihilism) without and shred of doubt.

"If a tree falls in a for"--WHO CARES?!

 

[c4ts]

No no no, trying to prove Philosophy... there is really nothing rational you can say to support or deny any Philosophical claim (except Nihilism) without and shred of doubt.

"If a tree falls in a for"--WHO CARES?!

Without doubt, there would be no philosophy.