Minarvia
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Absolutely. It was reading the bibble cover to cover in college that not only made me sick but felt that if there was indeed such a creature I wanted no part of it.
Darth Rotor
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In an attempt to be reasonable here:
Don't you think that ambivalence, resentment, or even hate, toward God is a natural reaction by homosexuals who run across the attitudes of far too many followers of the God? If you are met with condemnation, no negotiation or compromise offered, in the name of that God and God's rules, how do you expect people to react?
Let's look at a portion of Muslims and Christians (about 2 billion people on the planet), whose creed basically condemns homosexuality. A good sized chunk of that mass of people are likely to be less than charitable towards homosexuals when applying strict interpretations of the codes and creeds of their God.
It appears that one can argue, based on tenets, that if one swings homosexual, and one recognizes it, one is acceptable to God if one overcomes biological and libidinous urges and becomes celibate.
How nice.
Technically, God and His people condemned me as a vile fornicator during my single days, as I was most assuredly poon hunting outside of marriage. Let's say I didn't give much of a crap about that condemnation.
Let's do the sums: there is one option being, "OK if you are Gay" as seen by the more stringent adherents of two major religions worshipping God, and that option is celibacy.
Aside: there is enough wiggle room in the codes that the American Episcopal church has not only openly gay members, but also gay clergy. Not sure about the Lutherans. Don't know enough about various small Muslim sects to know if something similar has developed, but I read a neat piece in Atlantic a few years back that described the underground gay scene in Saudi Arabia. But I digress.
If the strict adherents could reliably point to how commonly practiced celibacy is among the Faithful outside of marriage, there would be room to stand there, particularly if the attitude was open: "Come join us, and we'll be very helpful to you in remaining celibate, we'll be supportive, etc!" And actually be helpful.
But I don't think we see very much of that. (Example: you can be hanged for being gay in Iran. How special. You can be ostracized in any number of Christian sects for being openly gay ... and so on.)
While I am no fan of anti-Christian bigotry, I completely understand how a gay person would be uncomfortable with God, or emotionally negative up to and including hate, due to how His people often act in His name.
Yet even so, you find homosexuals practicing Christianity, see the example I offered above. That's a remarkable testament to me of the open-hearted nature of at least some of God's people, and by extension (in a similar rationale as above) of God.
In case you are wondering, I am a straight, married Christian male.
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It wasn't complicated. I don't see any "prophecy" needing "extracting."
Epic fail is your futile war.
And what is it you think I'm missing, as opposed to your "life to the fullest"?
That's just super. You rock, Sock. Now tell me why you hate Jesus Christ. Quote some of the most offensive words in red please.
Do you not recognize the cosmic significance? Ask Complexity.
Sure, yes. And also because of what the Text says.
How much time is that for me and how much time is that for you?
It has no significance or special meaning.
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D'rok
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Does your definition of "life to the fullest" include constant denigration of others to feel better about self? If so, I don't need it or want it.
You assume. You do not know that. I don't go to church. And I don't obsess against anything I consider fiction.
No, wrong again, you do not get it.
Like it's even remotely possible that my point of view would not get opposition here. Duh.
You're mistaking me for someone else, because not a one of you yet here in the He-Man God-Haters Circle Jerk Club that I have exchanged with is impressive.
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dio
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You shouldn't generalize like that.
Some christians have class (nice post there Rotor), some don't.
The "foaming at the mouth" type are strangely attracted to this place, like bugs at night to a light source that they can't understand. But I agree with you, they are entertaining. For a while.
Skeptic Ginger
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Some skeptics just can't let go of their god beliefs. It's an interesting phenomena, IMHO, which is an annoying opinion in some forum member opinions.
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Skeptic Ginger
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