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Fun with David Icke

Chanileslie said:
The Matrix is a whole series of books by David Icke. The first time I saw a book by this man, was when a customer purchased Children of the Matrix, and I thought at first that it may be another sequel to the movie the Matrix, until I read the back. Egads! I can't believe that anyone would buy such crap.
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I don't know; I would be half tempted to buy one just for laughs. Besides, what bookshelf is complete without at least one mention of reptilian aliens who secretly control the human race?
 
Well... I've just visited his website.

I'ts chock full of wonderful stuff - but I can give it up at any time, I tell you.

A quick look now has me convinced that Alice in Wonderland caused 9/11 - these mythical people from fairy stories just get everywhere, don't they? You just can't trust them - after all, we all saw that Elrond was a goody-goody Elf didn't we? But, surprise, surprise - guess who turns up in David Icke's Matrix as the bad guy? :)

Also, I'm definitely going to have to consider stocking up with his Detox pads.

After all - detoxing through your feet while you sleep - what could be better!

Yup - just a couple of Japanese sounding names (though I guess this could be "genuine" ;) Japanese woo, of course) and I'm convinced - and only £24.95 for 20 pads! - wow, it's one of the bargains of the century, I tell you!

Just remember - Jukusui foot pads are the best! (Isn't footpad another name for a highwayman? Or is that an unfair comparison?) Do NOT confuse them with cheaper imitations!

Sheesh! I definitely need to get out more....

:D

YBW
 
Ah yes, David Icke... author of such delusions as that the Royal Family are blood-sucking reptiles from another - hang on actually, he might have something there.

Anybody remember the Wogan show, where he 'outed' himself so embarrassingly as the Son of God? Ouch. Actually, here is a website which argues that chuckling at Icke's bizarre claims somehow curtails his philosophical freedom, and that we should all have simply nodded sagely instead.

You've got to like him though. He was brave for looking such a complete wally, and I remember a documentary a couple of years ago - might have been Louis Theroux? - which followed him around on his lecture tour (sadly, with his somewhat ambivalent young son, clearly torn between wanting to be just like Dad and feeling mortified). The picture gained of him was of a genuine, but delusional, fellow, fairly pleasant, but with a mad, paranoid glint in his eye.

And who knows... this video footage from his site may be genuine...

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I'm not sure if it is the same documentary, but I watched one on Icke on UK TV.

Icke himself was bizarre enough, but the Icke stuff was intercut with very serious people from Jewish representative groups who basically said :

"Yea he says Lizard, but he REALLY MEANS Jews" - This Icke fellow is an anti-semite and must be stopped.

It was amazing - Icke's paranoid and delusional beliefs actualy being topped in the same program!

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Anyone-else here actually been to one of his live talks? Cos I have. :p

It was a fascinating encounter, because it was in a not-very-big tent on a sweltering afternoon high up in the far reaches of the Glastonbury festival. His audience was a bunch of political activists and hippies and the first half of his talk he was making some quite sensible and serious noises about globalisation, corporate power and the sorry state of the planet - all topics on which almost the entire audience was on his side. However, he inevitably mentioned the lizard-people and at this point several people in the audience tried to explain to him that maybe he should drop the lizard stuff because it was causing people to ignore the parts of his message that made sense. He then got upset and started arguing with audience and the whole thing degenerated into a bad-tempered slanging match.
 
How does calling people lizards differ from calling people slugs or worms( Apart from the fact that he means literal lizard)?

You can put the lizard part down to him being a bit mentally unwell the rest might be cast iron logic. I don't know I haven't read any of his books.
 
pjh said:
I'm not sure if it is the same documentary, but I watched one on Icke on UK TV.

Icke himself was bizarre enough, but the Icke stuff was intercut with very serious people from Jewish representative groups who basically said :

"Yea he says Lizard, but he REALLY MEANS Jews" - This Icke fellow is an anti-semite and must be stopped.

It was amazing - Icke's paranoid and delusional beliefs actualy being topped in the same program!

see here
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If you ever read the book "THEM, Adventures with extremists" the author (jewish himself) has the regrettable task of reporting hwo the David Icke haters come off looking much worse than the looney Icke himself. The haters try to embarass him by hitting him with a cream pie, and end up damaging a book display.
 
kookbreaker said:
If you ever read the book "THEM, Adventures with extremists" the author (jewish himself) has the regrettable task of reporting hwo the David Icke haters come off looking much worse than the looney Icke himself. The haters try to embarass him by hitting him with a cream pie, and end up damaging a book display.
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If I remember the TV program the protesters thought he was an anti-semite because some of his followers seemed to think that giant lizards was actually code for Jews (which says something about the bigots in the fact they couldn’t tell this man was a loon.) It all seemed to come down to the protesters thinking his followers views were representative of his, although they were rather strident in holding to this conviction.
 
David Icke is really a reptilian shapeshifter who is covering up the reptilian conspiracy. The plan is for him to write books so nutty that if anyone else ever discovers the conspiracy, they will be associated with Icke and deemed a total nutjob. Trust me.
 
DuckTapeFileMan said:
How does calling people lizards differ from calling people slugs or worms( Apart from the fact that he means literal lizard)?
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He means literal lizard. He means they turn into lizards and ritually eat people. He included the late H.R.H. The Queen Mother amongst their number. :D

From my POV, Icke is a person who has no filter whatsoever on what he believes, including the law of non-contradiction. He believes everything at the same time - or at least everything with a mystical/paranormal/conspiracy-theory flavour. He treats none of it as metaphorical and all of it as literal.
 
Mid said:
If I remember the TV program the protesters thought he was an anti-semite because some of his followers seemed to think that giant lizards was actually code for Jews (which says something about the bigots in the fact they couldn’t tell this man was a loon.) It all seemed to come down to the protesters thinking his followers views were representative of his, although they were rather strident in holding to this conviction.
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Well, Icke certainly believes (or used to believe, I've not been following his writings lately) that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are genuine plans of the Illuminati/Lizards; according to him, they just made the document look like it was written by Jews, to fool people and to cause division.
It's been reported that fascist groups in Britain have recommended his books to followers, telling them that Icke's Lizard conspiracy is really a coded blueprint for the Jewish world conspiracy; they apparently don't care if he really believes in lizards or not. It's also been reported that at least one of Icke's close campaign workers is, or has been, a member of a fascist party.
I don't know how true those reports are, but I can see how his conspiracy theories would attract right-wing nutters.
 
sophia8 said:
Well, Icke certainly believes (or used to believe, I've not been following his writings lately) that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are genuine plans of the Illuminati/Lizards; according to him, they just made the document look like it was written by Jews, to fool people and to cause division.
It's been reported that fascist groups in Britain have recommended his books to followers, telling them that Icke's Lizard conspiracy is really a coded blueprint for the Jewish world conspiracy; they apparently don't care if he really believes in lizards or not. It's also been reported that at least one of Icke's close campaign workers is, or has been, a member of a fascist party.
I don't know how true those reports are, but I can see how his conspiracy theories would attract right-wing nutters.
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Well if that's true it helps explain the nature of some of his followers in the TV program (it really puzzled me at the time how they jumped to the conclusion that giant lizards was code for Jews), it also indicates how completely dense the far right is.
 
Hey, New Sceptic - thanks for the heads-up!

I'm convinced!;)

Actually, I'm probably about as convinced as you are.... :D

YBW
 
PurpleChipmunk said:
Yes. I believe he likens them to the agents and sentient programs in the Matrix movie.
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I really can't believe a responsible cinema manager allowed David Icke to watch the Matrix.

I mean surely that just had bad idea written all over it.
 
JustGeoff said:
He means literal lizard. He means they turn into lizards and ritually eat people. He included the late H.R.H. The Queen Mother amongst their number. :D

From my POV, Icke is a person who has no filter whatsoever on what he believes, including the law of non-contradiction. He believes everything at the same time - or at least everything with a mystical/paranormal/conspiracy-theory flavour. He treats none of it as metaphorical and all of it as literal.
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David Icke--Leave No Dot Unconnected.

Michael
 
David Icke:
Over a hundred sects and groups regard Shasta as a sacred place, one of the nine sacred mountains of the world. It is considered by some an entry point to the fifth dimension
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Ummm, how can there be an entry point into another dimension from a computer program?

Maybe it's that Pentium Bug we've been hearing so much about?
 
With all th Loose Change threads about and Icke's tenous connection to 9/11 via his books I thought this thread could be bumped by this Q and A I found;here's a small snippet which sums Icke up and his lack of proof of anything.
Q: ATS: Amuk asks, Why you are not leading an armed revolt against our Reptilain overlords instead of being happy just to make a buck off of the suffering of millions of your fellow humans? I know if I believed it I would go down fighting rather than see my childern food and sex slaves to a bunch of lizards.
A: David Icke: We have a word in Britain called bollocks. It is a slang word for testicles and also means something that is utter nonsense, as in ?a load of bollocks?. Your question, Amuk, immediately brought the word to mind. Don?t be a prat all your life, mate, have a day off. Treat yourself. Jeeeez.
Q: ATS: Amuk also asks, Why not kidnap one and force them to shift in front a group of people? Why not get PROOF of some sort and show it to the masses? Why not kill as many of them as he could? Why not do SOMETHING to try to force the issue? A: David Icke: Why don't you?
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/david_icke_interview.html
 
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