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Someone just sent me this one, which I feel compelled to share.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with
sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -Galileo
Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)
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Good Quotes: They're not just for sigs anymore.

Post your fav's here.
 
A quick trawl thorugh the web netted me the following gem:

"I still say a church steeple with a lightening rod on top shows a lack of confidence."
-Doug McLeod
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:)
 
The following passage, for some reason, always reminds me of Creationists:

Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field in which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although "they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion."

St. Augustine: The Literal Meaning of Genesis, Book 1, Chapter 19
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Amazing how this was written in the 4th Century. Otherwise, I would have wondered whether Augustine knew Kent Hovind
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I recently read something about the letters between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

Adams once said something to Jefferson something to the effect that neither one of them believed in heaven, but they behaved as if there was a heaven just in case. Then he said, "If we are disappointed, we won't know it."
 
I find this small phrase (by Stanislaw Lem) really amazing. He talks about SF, compares it with theology, and crunches the later without even noticing...

"The strategy theologians apply to their principal subject is not properly available to the writer of SF. The mystery of the Alien, unlike that of God, cannot be preserved by resorting to dogmatically imposed contradictions without betraying the true nature of science fiction."

Science Fiction Studies, Volume 10, Part 3, November 1983
 
I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children,
because I don't think children should be having sex

I hope life isn't a big joke, because I don't get it.

Whenever I see an old lady slip and fall on a wet sidewalk, my first instinct is to
laugh. But then I think, what if I was an ant, and she fell on me. Then it wouldn't
seem quite so funny.

If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling?
Sometimes it seemed that way.
 
Gandhi quote: To a man with an empty stomach, food is God.

I've posted this one before, and it's rather long, but it is a favorite:

Have you ever heard of the madman who on a bright morning lit a lantern, ran to the market-place and cried incessantly: "I am looking for God! I am looking for God!" As many of those who did not believe in God were standing together there he excited considerable laughter. Why? is he lost? said one. Has he strayed away like a child? said another. Or does he keep himself hidden? Is he afraid of us? Has he taken a sea voyage? Has he emigrated? - the people cried out laughingly, all in a hubbub. The insane man jumped into their midst and transfixed them with his glances. "Where is God gone?" he called out. "I mean to tell you! We have killed him, you and I! We are all his murderers! But how have we done it? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the whole horizon? What did we do when we loosened this earth from its sun? Whither does it now move? Whither do we move? Away from all suns? Do we not dash on unceasingly? Backwards, sideways, forwards, in all directions? Is there still an above and below? Do we not stray, as through infinite nothingness? Does not empty space breathe upon us? Has it not become colder? Does not night come on continually, darker and darker? Shall we not have to light lanterns in the morning? Do we not hear the noise of the grave-diggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God's decomposition? - gods, too, decompose! God is dead! God remains dead! And we have killed him! How shall we console ourselves, the most murderous of all murderers? The holiest and the mightiest that the world has hitherto possessed, has bled to death under our knife - who will wipe the blood from us? With what water could we cleanse ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to devise? Is not the magnitude of this deed too great for us? Shall we not ourselves have to become Gods, merely to seem worthy of it? There never was a greater event - and on account of it, all who are born after us belong to a higher history than any history hitherto!" Here the madman was silent and looked again at his hearers; they also were silent and looked at him in surprise. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, so that it broke in pieces and was extinguished. "I come too early," he then said. "I am not yet at the right time. This prodigious event is still on its way, and is traveling - it has not yet reached men's ears. Lightning and thunder need time, the light of the stars needs time, deeds need time, even after they are done, to be seen and heard. This deed is as yet further from them than the furthest star - and yet they have done it themselves!" It is further stated that the madman made his way into different churches on the same day, and there intoned his Requiem aeternam deo. When led out and called to account, he always gave the reply: "What are these churches now, if they are not the tombs and sepulchres of God?"

Friedrich Nietzsche, "The Madman" from The Gay Science
 
"The few took advantage of the ignorant many. They pretended to have received messages from the Unknown. They stood between the helpless multitude and the gods. They were the carriers of flags of truce. At the court of heaven they presented the cause of man, and upon the labor of the deceived they lived."

"We find now that the prosperity of nations has depended, not upon their religion, not upon the goodness or providence of some god, but on soil and climate and commerce, upon the ingenuity, industry, and courage of the people, upon the development of the mind, on the spread of education, on the liberty of thought and action; and that in this mighty panorama of national life, reason has built and superstition has destroyed."

"I believe in the religion of reason -- the gospel of this world; in the development of the mind, in the accumulation of intellectual wealth, to the end that man may free himself from superstitious fear, to the end that he may take advantage of the forces of nature to feed and clothe the world."

-- Robert Ingersoll (Why Am I an Agnostic?, North American Review, December, 1889)
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And in a lighter vein...

"Not only is there no god, but try getting a plumber on weekends."
-- Woody Allen

"When in comes to bull**** ... bigtime, major league bull**** ... you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims -- religion."
-- George Carlin

"I was driving alone one day and I saw a hitchhiker with a sign saying 'Heaven'. So I hit him."
-- Steven Wright
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"They have kept us in submission because they have talked about separation of church and state. There is no such thing in the Constitution. It's a lie of the Left, and we're not going to take it anymore." - Pat Robertson

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" - 1rst Amendment, US Constitution

Yes, although the words "seperation of church and state" dont appear, I'm sure thats one of a list of things "no law respecting an establishment of religion" one can infer.
 
I don't know the author:

"Never underestimate stupid people in large numbers"
 
I can't remember where I saw it, but:
"You know you've found the right religon when God hates the same people you do"
 
There are only two kinds of men: the righteous who believe themselves sinners; the sinners who believe themselves righteous.
-Blaise Pascal, philosopher and mathematician (1623-1662)
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From the "I wish I could find the exact quote and who said it" department:

"Is there an atheist out there who, when he REALLY needed to take a ****, and who went into the restroom and found the stall vacant, HASN'T offered a prayer of thanksgiving to God?"

"I propose that when a religious dispute arises, that, instead fighting amonst ourselves trying to resolve it, we all agree to put the question to the Almighty, and we all agree that His decision shall be followed. We also agree that, if we get no decision, that the Almighty has no opinion on the matter."

"People are NOT made in the image of God. We know this because God is wise, merciful and just."
 
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