Franko Memorial thread!

[c4ts]

The more you ignore me, the phonier your "religion" becomes. You are the one and only "Logical Deist," and you are pretending to belong to a "religion" of your own creation. You claim not to remember who told you about Logical Deism, but you know soooooo much about your Illogical Goddess and your TLOP ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ that I suggest you respond to our questions on the validity of your religion. Otherwise, members of this board will continue to antagonize you.

 

[wraith]

Golly. I ask the lad a simple question and he disappears again. I thought he said he would be back today.

I wonder why it is so difficult for our friend the wraith to answer how he himself first learned about the terms "Logical Deism" and "Logical Goddess". I wonder and wonder and wonder...

Sorry
I was at a strip club last night and at friends the other nights

I got those terms from Franko.

 

[wraith]

sigh. Let me say it again. Energy is matter. Matter is energy. Two forms of the same thing. You can refer to matter in terms of energy and you can refer to energy in terms of mass.

If there was no consciousness around, there would still be "trees" "stars" and "planets"?

I thought matter was one form of energy?

 

[c4ts]

Sorry
I was at a strip club last night and at friends the other nights

I got those terms from Franko.

You have two options, choose either one or the other:

1. Prove that you are not Franko's sock puppet.
2. Tell us where Franko got them from.

 

[wraith]

I suppose that might be one way to interpret it, but I see no reason to think that matter is nonsensical or that energy is indescribable. (Especially the latter since it's been described in numerous fashions already)

But hey, whatever trips your trigger.

Church, whats your answer to energy and matter as one form being supervenient to the other?

 

[wraith]

Wraith:

A Buddhist says Buddhism came from the teachings of the Buddha.
A Jew will tell you Juddaism comes from the authors of the Torah.
A Muslim will tell you Islam comes from Mohammed and the Koran.
A Christian will tell you Christianity comes from Jesus's teachings in the Bible.
A Scientologist will tell you Scientology comes from L. Ron Hubbard.

And so on.

The thing is, "Wraith," I don't believe Logical Deism is an organized religion at all. I think it's a bunch of crazy crap you made up, that it doesn't hold a candle to a real religion at all. The fact of the matter is, I've looked all over the web, and the only "Logical Deist" I found on the internet so far was you posting on Deism.org under the name "Serpent." And, by the way, even regular Deism acknowledges its source as Thomas Paine, and his book "Age of Reason." You say you are not the founder of Logical Deism, but a member, as if it were an organized religion. You say it has members. You say they are all over the web, that it is gaining popularity, and I intend to test that.

I will ask you again:
WHERE DID LOGICAL DEISM COME FROM?

Not sure.
Ask me in a couple of years time when Im more of a pro.

What are you saying? The size of a religion determines credibility? Interesting.

Here is your chance to prove me wrong. It's a very simple task:
Post the url of 1 Logical Deist website.
I only need a specifically LD website, or a website about religions that contains information about Logical Deism specifically. The reason I am asking that it contain information is so I can check to see if it has anything to do with what you've been posting all over these boards.
But there's a catch. I have already run an internet search for Logical Deism and recorded the results. If you post a website, I will try the search again and expect to see the same results.

Do you accept my challenge? If not, why?

Challenge?
Looks like a walk in the park actually

A LD website?
Actually.........

 

[c4ts]

I am running a search on questions regarding the origins of Logical Deism. I will post one question and the answer you gave each time you continue to ignore me, as it will serve as evidence that Logical Deism is not a valid religion. I may also include some contradictory statements pertaining to the "relgion" itself to further back my claim. You ignore me, but others will not.

 

[c4ts]

Not sure.
Ask me in a couple of years time when Im more of a pro.

What are you saying? The size of a religion determines credibility? Interesting.



Challenge?
Looks like a walk in the park actually

A LD website?
Actually.........

Very well, POST IT RIGHT NOW IF IT'S SO EASY!!!

You say that LD is an organized religion. More than a few members WILL in fact determine its credibility, as multiple members adhering to the same set of beliefs results from organization.

 

[wraith]

The more you ignore me, the phonier your "religion" becomes. You are the one and only "Logical Deist," and you are pretending to belong to a "religion" of your own creation. You claim not to remember who told you about Logical Deism, but you know soooooo much about your Illogical Goddess and your TLOP ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ that I suggest you respond to our questions on the validity of your religion. Otherwise, members of this board will continue to antagonize you.

DAM

This one bites...
hahaa

I have no interest in what you think.
If you think a web site makes something more True then.....you know

Try to control yourself will you?

 

[c4ts]

Are you declining from my challenge? If so, why?

 

[wraith]

Are you declining from my challenge? If so, why?

What challenge?
There is no "official" web site as far as I know.

Im off...going to do some laps
catch ya on the flip side

 

[wraith]

You have two options, choose either one or the other:

1. Prove that you are not Franko's sock puppet.
2. Tell us where Franko got them from.

Na
Ill "choose" not to "choose" any.






...Gravity... interesting

 

[c4ts]

Na
Ill "choose" not to "choose" any.






...Gravity... interesting

YOU ADMIT YOU ARE MAKING A CHOICE?

Sorry, but all your "there is no free-will" arguments just went down the great metaphysical toilet.

Now, explain your actions. Why do you decline my challenge if it is so easy?

 

[c4ts]

Come on, it doesn't require a lot of typing to say why you did not post a URL if it's so easy like you said it was.

Why did you back out of my challege? Are you chicken? Are there no Logical Deist websites? Surely, there must be at least 1 website, if it is as popular on the web as you say it is.

This isn't about the validity of your claims about gravity or your Goddess, just the validity of the particular claim that Logical Deism is an organization you belong to.

 

[Tricky]

You know aswell as I do about your little question begging and double standards.

Ah yes! Question begging. Would you like to show me exactly where I have done that, oh master of logic? In fact, can you even tell me what it means?

Feel free to restate any of your arguments that are pro materialism to show the contrary.

LOL. Why should I restate them? So you can ignore them again? Or have you simply forgotten them. (Those "nights on the town" will do that to your memory)

All that you have shown is that you dont like the idea of a God/s.

I have no problem with the idea of God(s). What I have a problem with is your evidence. So far you're oh-for-everything at supporting your contentions.

HAHAHA
SO what are you saying Trix?
Anything published is True by default?

Nope. A lot of what is printed is crap. However, anything that is considered real science is printed somewhere. That's why I cut you so much slack. I will even accept the most bogus piece of crap book you can find that supports your view of gravitons. I'm not even asking you to show me some good science, just show me any science. How much more fair can I be?

So are you admiting that there is zero science that supports Logical Deism, or are you just to proud to show any?

When I see a book that comes from a "consciousness creates matter" view point, Ill let you know.

Oh, there are a number of them out there (the Bible is one). However, none of them are science books. You do know what science is, dont you?

If your current understanding of science and consciousness makes you feel as if you have a solid grip on everything then so be it.

I know what science is. Maybe someday you will be sidswiped by the "clue" bus. Until then, I have no intention of taking macramé lessons from a guy who can't tie his shoelaces.

You have shown nothing.
Have the balls to prove me wrong?

Wraith, you've been shown wrong more times than a compass inside a magnet factory. Unfortunately, your ball-less condition prevents you from admitting it.

 

[c4ts]

Let it be known that Wraith has declined from my challenge, and he has given no backing to the claim that Logical Deism is popular on web, nor has he explained why he could not find a single website about Logical Deism. I conclude that he (Wraith/Franko/Serpent) is the creator of Logical Deism, and I applaud him for his creativity. He could make a living writing science fiction novels.

 

[Tricky]

Let it be known that Wraith has declined from my challenge, and he has given no backing to the claim that Logical Deism is popular on web, nor has he explained why he could not find a single website about Logical Deism.

Oh, you meant the Worldwide Web? He thought you were talking about what he had scribbled in the margins of his Spiderman coloring book.

 

[c4ts]

You have to give the guy some credit. I mean, could YOU come up with your own relgion as crazy as Logical Deism?

 

[CWL]

Sorry
I was at a strip club last night and at friends the other nights

I got those terms from Franko.

Originally posted by c4ts

You have two options, choose either one or the other:

1. Prove that you are not Franko's sock puppet.
2. Tell us where Franko got them from.

Okey, dokey wraith. Do you in fact by any chance have any idea how Franko first learned of the terms "Logical Deism" and "Logical Goddess"?

Pretty please with sugar on it?

 

[wraith]

YOU ADMIT YOU ARE MAKING A CHOICE?

Sorry, but all your "there is no free-will" arguments just went down the great metaphysical toilet.

Do you see the quotation marks around the word choice?
My choice is simply the result of my MPB.

Now, explain your actions. Why do you decline my challenge if it is so easy?

didnt I just answer it?