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Forum consensus, employee who refuses to close bathroom door .

Closing the door is not for the protection of others, it is there for the protection of the person using the facilities. This gives a simple solution.
When the person enters the room in question, gather some people, preferably of both genders and get them to view what happens and comment loudly as if it was a sporting event. Discuss this action with the spectators beforehand so they know what to do.
 
rjh01 said:
Closing the door is not for the protection of others, it is there for the protection of the person using the facilities. This gives a simple solution.
When the person enters the room in question, gather some people, preferably of both genders and get them to view what happens and comment loudly as if it was a sporting event. Discuss this action with the spectators beforehand so they know what to do.
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And when he wins the harassment lawsuit (more likely a settlement since the lawsuit would be a slam dunk) against the company, everyone who participated will chip in?
 
abaddon said:
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This results in various persons wandering in search of a toilet one can be sure is not occupied. Nobody wants to bust in on someone doing anything deeply personal.
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I have had several times in different situations where a person just opened the door (or tried to turn the handle) without knocking. I always lock it when I can but sometimes that's not an option. This has also happened at private homes. And it's always been an adult.
 
abaddon said:
OK. If I eat something untoward which causes me to spray projectile feces everywhere due to whatever bug, you are quite comfortable to observe me spray painting the walls brown and, according to you, I should be quite comfortable having you watch me like some sort of fetishist.

That is deeply creepy.
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Pics, or it didn't...
Oh, nevermind.
 
rjh01 said:
Closing the door is not for the protection of others, it is there for the protection of the person using the facilities. This gives a simple solution.
When the person enters the room in question, gather some people, preferably of both genders and get them to view what happens and comment loudly as if it was a sporting event. Discuss this action with the spectators beforehand so they know what to do.
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and if they want privacy they can put a bag over their head so nobody knows for sure who it is.
 
You would think the cow orkers would just be glad he is not using a plastic jug at his desk, thank heaven for small favors and get back to work.
 
abaddon said:
OK. If I eat something untoward which causes me to spray projectile feces everywhere due to whatever bug, you are quite comfortable to observe me spray painting the walls brown and, according to you, I should be quite comfortable having you watch me like some sort of fetishist.

That is deeply creepy.
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To be fair, he was talking about "an activity nearly every lifeform on Earth engages in multiple times a day." :)
 
TragicMonkey said:
I blush to admit it but early on in my working life I included my GPA in the Education part of my resume.
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I was looking for a job after I had been out of school for 14 years, and I think I included it. At that time, I was working with an "out placement" firm and the consultant said to do it, but that it was kind of marginal at my age then.

The next time after that, it wasn't on there.


(i.e "out placement" firm. The company closed us down and threw us all out of work, part of our severance package was to provide some "looking for work" consultants for us. I asked the consultant why he thought they might bother to do that. The consultant replied that companies want you to get jobs as quickly as possible, partly to cut down on unemployment benefits, but mostly it helps avoid lawsuits.)
 
BStrong said:
To all - not hot, #1 so far, door wide open.

Other bathroom users can enter the bathroom exterior by key, including state of Ca. employees who are on site, LGBT individuals along with us boring types.

This issue started with the EIQ entering the BR through my office and leaving both doors open while they did their thing. Immediately informed them that they must close both doors while using other facilities - and the fight was on.

This person claims a 170 IQ - on their resume - and it's been a long running **** show since his hiring in 2016. I wanted to can them before the end of their probationary period, but the GM though they'ed straighten up. At some point I'll make a detailed post in Community detailing the carnival of idiocy this person drags along with them.

Theyre getting a formal warning letter this afternoon. I'll report later.
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The use of pronouns in the English language confuses me even more than bathroom etiquette.
 
I can't help but notice that the OP did not include any gender references in the description of the employee in question, and used gender neutral pronouns to describe "them".


And yet, most subsequent responses have referred to the person as if they were male.


Care to share that information with us? Including, if necessary, the definition used for any ambiguous words?

(ETA: Ninja'd)
 
Get rid of him. Get him out tomorrow. I don't care. Take him out. Ok? Just frickin' do it.
 
kali1137 said:
I have to agree with Tragic Monkey on this one. Clearly the untrainable animal needs to be put down. I vote murder or if you are on the squeamish side, I would assume this is an HR nightmare where the person clearly needs to be let go.
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He clearly needs to go. Clearly. Needs to go.
 
Babbylonian said:
And when he wins the harassment lawsuit (more likely a settlement since the lawsuit would be a slam dunk) against the company, everyone who participated will chip in?
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All he has to do to prevent this is to shut the door. Any harassment lawsuit would have to name him as one of the chief harassers. Then of course there is the countersuit. He is harassing you by leaving the door open.
 
rjh01 said:
All he has to do to prevent this is to shut the door. Any harassment lawsuit would have to name him as one of the chief harassers. Then of course there is the countersuit. He is harassing you by leaving the door open.
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There's a pretty big difference between one person being an ******* and a bunch of people organizing themselves to do so. I mean, that's clear to you, right?
 
Trebuchet said:
The OP did say it was only a number 1. For females, sitting down, you wouldn't be able to tell.

And also says this, not far from the top:
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I missed that one. Yes. His.


I was pretty darned certain that the person described was a biological male, but wasn't absolutely certain about the gender identity.
 
Babbylonian said:
There's a pretty big difference between one person being an ******* and a bunch of people organizing themselves to do so. I mean, that's clear to you, right?
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That's why I suggested enlisting the assistance of a strike team composed of 10,000 wiener dogs. Wiener dogs cannot be compelled to testify, nor can they be charged with crimes. It's in the law! The Wiener Dog Exclusionary Rule, it's called. It was codified in 1480 in the duchy of Ulbridgeshire when "an maelstrom of wiener dogges did engulf the holy bishop of Blaphsgate, and did tear himme asunder, vestments and alle" but the king's justicemen couldn't bring them to trial. Everyone suspected it was arranged by witchcraft, but nobody could guess who actually commanded the wiener dogs. It could have been any of the bishop's enemies, such as Sir Percival Innocent, Lord Honesty of Truesage, Bishop Friendly, or Lady Sorcerisse Dogcommander of Murderton. Impossible to tell which was the mastermind.
 
Thought of something else, why doesn't the door shut automatically? Most of the doors in commercial buildings here have doors that shut as a fire protection mechanism.
 
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