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BStrong

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While using the facilities?

I've got one I supervise. Given written notice 28th February of company policy, walk in on them yesterday afternoon.

Is this a new thing I've somehow missed out on? Individual in question is in my age group.

Progressive discipline as provided for in the union contract.
 
Insufficient info. Number 1 or Number 2? Are they hot? Are they doing this in a sexy way, or just a normal way? What is the decor of the bathroom?

Take a photo. They can hardly object in grounds of privacy if they're leaving the door open.
 
Immediate reaction: How is this even a thing????!!!? I've seen warning signs instructing employees not to stand on the toilet seat while defecating, but refusing to close the door? Ewwww.

Dave
 
"Notice: By leaving this door open the user agrees to assign all copyrights of their performance to the company, which will be live streaming them for profit on Poopcam."
 
TragicMonkey said:
Insufficient info. Number 1 or Number 2? Are they hot? Are they doing this in a sexy way, or just a normal way? What is the decor of the bathroom?

Take a photo. They can hardly object in grounds of privacy if they're leaving the door open.
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Yeah, insufficient info.
Shared restroom for everyone, or unisex?
How many occupants can it accomodate?
Are we talking about an outer door or stall door?
Is it Coronavirus related?
 
What have they been eating? There are people at my work who apparently eat curried farts and kimchee for breakfast, judging by the blistering fumes they emit in the bathroom in the afternoons. The tile on the walls cracks from the smell.
 
To all - not hot, #1 so far, door wide open.

Other bathroom users can enter the bathroom exterior by key, including state of Ca. employees who are on site, LGBT individuals along with us boring types.

This issue started with the EIQ entering the BR through my office and leaving both doors open while they did their thing. Immediately informed them that they must close both doors while using other facilities - and the fight was on.

This person claims a 170 IQ - on their resume - and it's been a long running **** show since his hiring in 2016. I wanted to can them before the end of their probationary period, but the GM though they'ed straighten up. At some point I'll make a detailed post in Community detailing the carnival of idiocy this person drags along with them.

They're getting a formal warning letter this afternoon. I'll report later.
 
I think I speak for all reasonable people when I say that the situation definitely calls for murder. It's the sensible solution here. Let us know how it goes.
 
I'm still a bit unclear whether there's a stall involved here. And the last post makes me a little more confused, with reference to locks.

Is this an issue of no stall, and the person's bathroom activity is visible to passers by or potentially visible to those walking into the bathroom?

Is it an issue of sound transmission?

Is it an issue of bathroom security? You mentioned keyed access.

Is it a one at a time single user bathroom?

And when you say "refuses" how does the employee react to being told to close the door? Do they actually actively say "hell no!" or do you mean "refuses" just to characterize that they continue leaving the door open?

Weird either way whether the cause is willful defiance or bad memory/habit. But the latter is slightly less weird and more likely fixable.
 
BStrong said:
While using the facilities?

I've got one I supervise. Given written notice 28th February of company policy, walk in on them yesterday afternoon.

Is this a new thing I've somehow missed out on? Individual in question is in my age group.

Progressive discipline as provided for in the union contract.
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Ah. Bathroom etiquette.

For reference, my company inhabits a facility shared/rented among many small businesses. Bathroom aplenty. All over. All single cubicles off common hallways.

The procedure is that one enters, does whatever, cleans up and leaves making sure to clean up, switch off the light, leave the lock on vacant and discretely depart.

Nevertheless, some people leave the light on, the fans running (who knows why), the door shut and the lock left ambiguously halfway between occupied and vacant.

This results in various persons wandering in search of a toilet one can be sure is not occupied. Nobody wants to bust in on someone doing anything deeply personal.
 
It seems weird to react to seeing someone engaging in an activity nearly every lifeform on Earth engages in multiple times a day.
 
I have to agree with Tragic Monkey on this one. Clearly the untrainable animal needs to be put down. I vote murder or if you are on the squeamish side, I would assume this is an HR nightmare where the person clearly needs to be let go.
 
This is one of those behaviors that is so "off" I almost want to assume there's an ulterior motive, although I couldn't really hazard a guess as to what it could be. This is not the kind of faux pas one just makes accidently once, much less repeatedly.
 
BobTheCoward said:
It seems weird to react to seeing someone engaging in an activity nearly every lifeform on Earth engages in multiple times a day.
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Peeing and pooping is special and should be private. Sharing should be reserved for special occasions like anniversaries or funerals or proms.
 
BStrong said:
To all - not hot, #1 so far, door wide open.

Other bathroom users can enter the bathroom exterior by key, including state of Ca. employees who are on site, LGBT individuals along with us boring types.

This issue started with the EIQ entering the BR through my office and leaving both doors open while they did their thing. Immediately informed them that they must close both doors while using other facilities - and the fight was on.

This person claims a 170 IQ - on their resume - and it's been a long running **** show since his hiring in 2016. I wanted to can them before the end of their probationary period, but the GM though they'ed straighten up. At some point I'll make a detailed post in Community detailing the carnival of idiocy this person drags along with them.

They're getting a formal warning letter this afternoon. I'll report later.
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You hired someone who puts their supposed IQ on their CV and expect normal behaviour?
 
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