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Fork, Meet Steele

Tricky said:
The Reagan thing worked for Republicans once. My personal feeling is that it screwed things up in the long run, but that is by no means a universal or even majority opinion. But RR is certainly a god among Republicans, so trying to emulate him is not "doing what didn't work before." It did work before, at least as far as getting Republicans elected, so it is no surprise that they would want to try it again.

Of course, GWB was almost a clone of Ronald Reagan, but without the charm, yet many GOP-ers seem to think that RR's ideas still have validity. Maybe they had some good effects once, but I think what really energized people was RR himself, not his policies. It was a "feel good" time in America. Some people look back on it fondly. I can't imagine why.
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Even assuming that . . .that actor creature who became Presidente somehow was both beloved and effective then, it doesn't follow that his policies would be equally effective now.
 
Tricky said:
The Reagan thing worked for Republicans once. My personal feeling is that it screwed things up in the long run, but that is by no means a universal or even majority opinion. But RR is certainly a god among Republicans, so trying to emulate him is not "doing what didn't work before." It did work before, at least as far as getting Republicans elected, so it is no surprise that they would want to try it again.

Of course, GWB was almost a clone of Ronald Reagan, but without the charm, yet many GOP-ers seem to think that RR's ideas still have validity. Maybe they had some good effects once, but I think what really energized people was RR himself, not his policies. It was a "feel good" time in America. Some people look back on it fondly. I can't imagine why.
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Reagan talked a good talk for economic conservatives. He winked while whispering sweet nothings to the social conservatives. But in the end, Reagan himself couldn't live up to the godlike status his legend has taken on among Republicans. Government grew under his watch. He enabled and made deals with terrorists. And he enabled the religious wing of the party such that the result is looking like a disaster today. RR had plenty of valid ideas. But many of these he couldn't or wouldn't implement, the value of which seems to have lived on mostly as symbolic talking points. "Government is the problem, not the solution" was only taken seriously as a rallying cry for the gullible. And even the gullible couldn't abide when they were in power.

I truly find the Republican breakup to be painful viewing. Steele is somehow quite the fitting character to be at the center of the mosh pit. Too independent to parrot the party line, too dim to realize the kind of spectacle it creates, too black to yank from his post, too incompetent to perform the job well. And he's just one facet of the gemstone that's turned out to be nothing but cut glass.
 
At Least One Nail in GOP's Coffin is Made of Steele

Steele Predicts a GOP Comeback

I didn't see any comments on this speech in which RNC Chair Michale Steele declared the time for "navel-gazing" to be over, and that the RNC was going to have a "comeback."

His plan for a comeback? A return to fiscal conservatism. Well, good luck. I don't think the base of the party actually cares about fiscal conservatism any more, except as a means to lure suckers into piggybacking onto their campaign for social conservatism.

If Steele can do it, he could win me back. Don't hold your breath.
 
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