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For 'Scooby'

skepticalcriticalguy said:
Scooby, I've tried this so many times here. To get them to list things about 9/11 that bother them. They say things like "why didn't Clinton get OBL" and such drivel.

I ask them what conspiracy theories they might acknowledge COULD be possible. The few that answer say "Watergate, Iran-Contra" etc. One guy did say he believed that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a scam. Shocked me! But that was a member here posting at another board, actually.
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Ahh but this is their weakness, they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't - like the bunch of jokers who couldn't concede that WTC7 was WTC7 the other day. Caught in the headlights with no coherent story - F*CKED. It was hilarious. There's going to be more like that on the way. Like rats leaving the sinking ship, they'll be deserting the official story out in the real world, while of course on the web, they will post till the bitter end, teleporting off it at the last minute with the click of a mouse and the twitch of a cable - or maybe even continuing from beneath the waves "Poseidon Adventure" style. "Cheney in his bunker with a Luger? - prove it!!!"
 
scooby said:
Ahh but this is their weakness, they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't - like the bunch of jokers who couldn't concede that WTC7 was WTC7 the other day. Caught in the headlights with no coherent story - F*CKED. It was hilarious. There's going to be more like that on the way. Like rats leaving the sinking ship, they'll be deserting the official story out in the real world, while of course on the web, they will post till the bitter end, teleporting off it at the last minute with the click of a mouse and the twitch of a cable - or maybe even continuing from beneath the waves "Poseidon Adventure" style. "Cheney in his bunker with a Luger? - prove it!!!"
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Two non fact guys who should go to LCF to be gods, are stuck talking again without facts.

Facts guys, got some? Any degrees between you guys? Or are you both socks for pdoh. You both are classic pdoh. No facts just smart talk about zip.

Are you guys just joking or are you real CTers without a clue?
 
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well after these few threads with skeptical and scooby acting like the woo's they are and can't even provide support of their claims, they are going into the bozo bin where they belong.. should have done this long ago.
 
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scooby said:
NASA eh?
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Yes.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/copernica/cadb/indexS.htm


I've got a better sig for you ...

"In the back of van, gagged - no one can hear your screams."

Ring any bells?
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No. I do not understand this gibberish.


If you think I'm going to pester a stranger at the FDNY, at the suggestion of an anonymous poster on a forum occupied by lets face it - extremely dubious characters - then you are very, very, very much mistaken.
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I categorically DO think you are going to contact the person at FDNY that I have provided for you, since you have publicly posted a pathological lie proven false, with intent to do harm, related to same FDNY, a slanderous claim of injury to an innocent party, a felony, public defamation, a Federal felony, and you are ignoring your error in doing harm to an innocent party that may effect their position publicly, which is litigatable.

I am not mistaken.

1. I categorically demand that you contact a complete stranger at FDNY.
2. I am here http://www.behold-the-rage.com/ I am not anonymous whatsoever.
3. My agent is there at that address as well.
4. I am here at NASA among many places so related: http://www.behold-the-rage.com/art_gallerys.html
5. I care not about anonymous posters, such as yourself.
6. I am not mistaken. I just proved who I am in item 2,3,4.
7. I care deeply about dubious posters such as yourself. Who are you? I am above so listed.
8. You are not pestering anyone: Your contact arranged by me, for you and other members of Strange 2, is FDNY, (718)-999-2845/1234


If it is your contention that the photo's being discussed were taken on a specific date and by a specific person, then the ball's in your court to demonstrate that this is indeed true.
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I just did: FDNY (718)-999-2845/1234
or email FDNY: smithma@fdny.nyc.gov

Melissa Smith will send you to First Responders who will verify the many accurate responses so posted by many here in this thread link above, concerning that photo and many like it posted all over the net associated with deubious claims by the 911 conspiracy movement, many that are litigatable.

Why are you lying?


If you can't do it, don't ask me to do it for you.
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I just did do it for you.

I am not asking you to do anything. I am telling you directly to stop pathologically lying in public. To acknowledge you are a pathological liar and have failed thus far to address your posted claim is in error.

Please respond to this post and stop lying on this board. Again, please respond to this thread at the first post, directed precisely at you.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77315


Thank you in advance.

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
http://www.behold-the-rage.com

Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
scooby said:
Ahh but this is their weakness, they're damned if they do and they're damned if they don't - like the bunch of jokers who couldn't concede that WTC7 was WTC7 the other day. Caught in the headlights with no coherent story
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Yeah, within minutes somebody here was breaking down the time zones to prove that is was actually an hour later. That one died.
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Yeah, within minutes somebody here was breaking down the time zones to prove that is was actually an hour later. That one died.
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What is your point here above as I came in late and do not understand. Something about WTC 7? I may be able to help you on this at the source.

Thank you.

Robert A.M. Stephens, LLC ®
NASA Fine Art Documentation Program
Vision Motion Dynamic-FX-FX
http://www.behold-the-rage.com

Have Jeep, Have Heart, Will Travel
 
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Since you have posted many times since I did, I can only assume that you missed my post scooby since it really is rude to ignore direct questions, and you'd never do that right. So I'm quoting the post once more

PhantomWolf said:
No scooby. You said that there was an issue with the speed of the collapse and claimed it was particular information that proved explosives. You have already danced one jig proving that you couldn't supply any video or audio links of explosives going off during the collapses, perhaps you can just answer the question this time. What do you claim was wrong with the speed of the collapses. if you don't answer it straight, then you are showing yourself as nothing but a troll who doesn't believe his own hype.

Now answer this direct question. What was wrong with the speed of the collapses?
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Please answer the question, or are you scared of facing me again?
 
scooby said:
Do you know who took the photo, and what date it was taken on?
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This photo in question from here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77137

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Yes. I do. It was taken on October 4, 2001, by members of FDNY. It is in their collection archive. It is among 9,800 other documenting type photos of 911.

RAMS
 
Redtail said:
So one guy tried (hearsay granted but he tried) and since it didn't work then it's just the internet and fliers?
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Umm, nooooo. Lots of books, and documentaries. And gatherings.

But keep believing the movement is dead, if you want.

I guess I don't get what you're saying.


 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Umm, nooooo. Lots of books, and documentaries. And gatherings.

But keep believing the movement is dead, if you want.

I guess I don't get what you're saying.
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Well you've had almost six years to -
  • Commission an independant firm of structural engineers to examine and comment upon the NIST report.
  • Commission an independant firm of aviation specialists to examine the evidence for aircraft crashing into the pentagon and at shanksville
  • Buy a (return) airline ticket to saudi, book a hotel, hire an interpretor, and find and interview any and all of the "alive" dead hijackers
  • Bring a class action lawsuit against the US Govt.
  • Enlist the support of delegates at the UN and attempt to get sanctions imposed against the US
  • Convince a major, reputable news organisation, somewhere in the world, to take the 9/11 conspiracy claims seriously
I'm sure the 'truth' movement could have raised enough money to attempt at least one of those things, couldn't it? I mean, it's growing and all.

But all you people can manage are...... meetings, internet videos and...ummmmm flyers and t-shirts.
 
uk_dave said:
I'm sure the 'truth' movement could have raised enough money to attempt at least one of those things, couldn't it? I mean, it's growing and all.

But all you people can manage are...... meetings, internet videos and...ummmmm flyers and t-shirts.
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Loose coalitions take a while to form and strengthen. And they do tend to splinter within. (Just look at the Democratic Party!) Especially with orchestrated resitance.

It isn't like it's well-funded. After all, we all live in Mom's basement and work at Pizza Hut, if at all. And the little money we do have goes to T-shirts, coffee mugs, shortwave radios and tin foil.

However, I sense it's going to be a very interesting election cycle coming up. ;)
 
skepticalcriticalguy said:
Loose coalitions take a while to form and strengthen. And they do tend to splinter within. (Just look at the Democratic Party!) Especially with orchestrated resitance.

It isn't like it's well-funded. After all, we all live in Mom's basement and work at Pizza Hut, if at all. And the little money we do have goes to T-shirts, coffee mugs, shortwave radios and tin foil.

However, I sense it's going to be a very interesting election cycle coming up. ;)
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Oh undoubtedly there will be an interesting election in the US come 2008.... only, if the performance of the 'truther' candidates in the mid-terms are anything to go by, I don't see you guys having very much to celebrate.

The republicans will most likely lose on the back of Iraq.

If there is another successful terror attack in the US it could swing it either way: the republicans will manage to convince people that they are needed in power to save the world against the terrorists, or the people will decide that the republicans have failed to protect them and it's time for a different tactic. Nothing is certain in that scenario, which makes a 'false flag' attack all the more unlikely.

But what about my suggestions for how the 'truth' movement could actually ACHIEVE something?

Surely a growing movement, endorsed by wealthy hollywood stars and famous authors, could scrape enough money together to do at least one of those things?

Even the t-shirt sales could finance a trip to saudi.

Why hasn't the movement commisioned any professional studies to back up their claims?

If you believed that a chemical plant was contaminating a water supply near where you live, but the govt agencies refused to confirm this, you'd get together with your neighbours and fund a private analysis of the water, wouldn't you? I mean, you wouldn't just leave it to some guy who happened to have lectured one time on the Medieval Silk Trade in Europe or the pastor of your local church to do the analysis with a kids chemistry set and some old schoolbooks...... would you?

Why isn't the 'truth' movement throwing any money into proving their claims?
 
The children still haven't learned to do their homework before school. That's sad.

skepticalcriticalguy said:
On September 15, 2005 Weldon asserted that he had identified an employee who had been ordered to destroy the 2.5 terabytes (TB) of data collected by Able Danger two years before the 9/11 attack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger#Able_Danger_data_destroyed
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Question for "skeptical:" should the U.S. military comply with the laws regarding the collection of information about individuals within the United States, or not?

I'm eager to hear your response.
 
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