Fetzer on O'Reilly

[Gravy]

I agree with many that it was about as subtle and clever as dropping Fetzer into a tub of custard. But who wouldn't enjoy watching Fetzer dropped into a tub of custard?

My favorite frozen confectioners in Long Lake, New York, that's who, Mr. Glib!

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[aofl]

I agree with many that it was about as subtle and clever as dropping Fetzer into a tub of custard. But who wouldn't enjoy watching Fetzer dropped into a tub of custard?

I wouldn't. Why ruin a tub of custard by dropping a load of crap in it?

 

[bjb]

For anyone here who feels bad for poor Uncle Fetzer, let me remind you of MarkyX's "Deniers Speak" video, and all the things Fetzer has said about how the UA93 Phone calls are fake, and how he mocked the passengers with his top 10 list from earlier this year.TAM

That's the kind of thing I'd like to see on TV. Show what Fetzer says and watch him squirm. I love it when people are made to look stupid by using their own words against them (Stephen Colbert, The Daily Show), and there are few easier targets for this strategy than Fetzer.

 

[Pardalis]

I also was offended when he suggested that Fetzer take his story to France or Canada, as if Canada is an agressive enemy of the United States.

Yeah, I resented that part, even more so because I'm a French Canadian and I have great respect and admiration for America.

 

[EGarrett]

What's the passenger/pilot question? As in, where are all of the passengers and pilots?

Basically yes. Depending on the flavor of CTer you have, you ask them about the fate of the people and the pilots who were killed (or "killed") on the plane.

If they claim the flights were landed and replaced with remote control jets, you ask where are the people who were supposedly killed on the flights? What about their families? The people either agreed to never contact anyone they knew ever again, or they have to bring every family member and friend of every person into conspiracy. That's easily into the tens of thousands of people.

If they claim the passengers were just murdered, you ask about the pilots. Did they agree to allow their planes to be crashed? If the pilots were made-up people, or government agents, who played the "part" of the pilots for decades? Who are all the flight attendants and Airline managerial people who vouched for the existence and death of these pilots?

And so on and so forth...if they're actually stupid enough to try and answer the question...you quickly reduce them to either insanity or stuttering.

 

[Hellbound]

Yeah, I resented that part, even more so because I'm a French Canadian and I have great respect and admiration for America.

"Canada has amassed 80% of it's population along the border with the U.U...."

Anybody here see the move "Canadian Bacon"?

 

[Peephole]

Basically yes. Depending on the flavor of CTer you have, you ask them about the fate of the people and the pilots who were killed (or "killed") on the plane.

If they claim the flights were landed and replaced with remote control jets, you ask where are the people who were supposedly killed on the flights? What about their families? The people either agreed to never contact anyone they knew ever again, or they have to bring every family member and friend of every person into conspiracy. That's easily into the tens of thousands of people.

If they claim the passengers were just murdered, you ask about the pilots. Did they agree to allow their planes to be crashed? If the pilots were made-up people, or government agents, who played the "part" of the pilots for decades? Who are all the flight attendants and Airline managerial people who vouched for the existence and death of these pilots?

And so on and so forth...if they're actually stupid enough to try and answer the question...you quickly reduce them to either insanity or stuttering.

Why they simply ordered the pilots to land, then shot them all and used voice morphing technology to impersonate all the passengers. It's not that far fetched!

 

[CurtC]

Basically yes. Depending on the flavor of CTer you have, you ask them about the fate of the people and the pilots who were killed (or "killed") on the plane.

I wish I could someday meet a Truther in person. I've never come across one, as far as I know. The closest I've come is seeing a car last week that had stickers in its rearwindow that said "infowars.com" and something about how the government was responsible for 9/11.

But if someone I talked to made the claim that the planes were not the four flights in the "official" story, I'd lead them down the following path. Since none of those 200 people has showed up to their families 5 years later, we have to presume they're dead, right? And the planes haven't turned up either, so we have to presume they're destroyed, right?

So if the government was going to murder the 200 people and destroy the 4 planes anyway, why didn't they just use those four planes where they say they did? What the hell purpose could it serve to pull the switcheroo and then dispose of the originals anyway?

 

[Pardalis]

"Canada has amassed 80% of it's population along the border with the U.U...."

Anybody here see the move "Canadian Bacon"?

Well it's freaking cold up there!

BTW, isn't that a Michael Moore film?

 

[delphi_ote]

Delphi, we've gone past that phase of playing with facts. Everything they put out, we counter. We point out the lies, quote mining, misreading, and junk science involved in their theories.

Not in nationally syndicated media, where we could actually change the minds of fence sitters. Anyone remember my first post in the Loose Change thread? Talking about my real estate agent friend who actually fell for it? All it took was some basic facts delivered reasonably to convince him.

Imagine if O'Reilly actually used this chance to do just that. Think about how many of these myths would've been put to rest. Instead, he made it a partisan issue. He ground his usual axe agains liberal academics run amok (an issue O'Reilly has been very wrong about before.)

Facts and logic are what make us different from them.

 

[Big Les]

Prescient, in light of the later responses in this thread. But your point may cut a little too close to home to the JREers who feel heroic for this very reason.

Damn, I see it now, we're all doing this for an ego-trip. I feel so dirty. I for one welcome our cretinous self-deluded overlords and will cease refuting their drivel right away.

You arse.