FEMA Camps

[Plantfoam]

I got a kick out of watching the video of the "death camp" in Indiana. The narrator (Sophia?) talks about all of the features as if they are obviously designed for something else.

Yeah, because I'm sure that those big side mounted HVAC units are ideal for incinerating people.

Actually, there's a big place near me that looks like a death camp....turnstyles, barbed wire, and cameras everywhere. It's a place called General Motors. Those poor people trapped inside subsist only on a $35 an hour wage.

 

[buka001]

FEMA are so slow in responding to anything, they are probably concentration camps intended for Japanese and German P.O.W's from WW2.

 

[Disbelief]

The point is, regardless of CTs, secretive governments do have a history of being just as paranoid as the people who make paranoid claims about them.

You can't be talking about the Bush administration then. They are so bad at keeping secrets that people make up other "supposed" secrets of theirs. For people who hold Dubya and his people in such low regard, truthers give them an awful lot of credit.

By the way, I remember when Clinton was just about finished with his second term. I started hearing people talking about how he was going to cause some kind of crisis so he could declare martial law and stay president. Can't remember if camps were involved or not.

 

[SpaceMonkeyZero]

They never seem to have any updated pictures of these "FEMA Death Camps". It's always video from the early 90s, or even late 80s. Even though they "know" where they are, they have yet to take new updated pictures of these so-called camps...

Then there's the whole fact that they're not camps to begin with.

Maybe the fact that there was only 100 Truthers out and about on 9/11 means they're teeming and overflowing with 84% of the country's population.

Truthers are pathetic with their paranoid ramblings.

 

[G-K-4]

A lot of the still-current round of "FEMA concentration camp" lore does in fact begin in 1984. (How appropriate.)

There actually was a military "readiness exercise" that year, which included a component of simulated civil unrest. But it was all a drill, not the beginning of any real internment drive. According to Chip Berlet, a lefty researcher of the right, the truth of the matter was exaggerated by a far-right, anti-Jewish, conspiracist newspaper called The Spotlight.

"The April 23, 1984 Spotlight article ran with a banner headline "Reagan Orders Concentration Camps." The article, true to form, took a problematic swipe at the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith along with reporting the facts of the story. The Harrer article was based primarily on two unnamed government sources, and follow-up confirmations. Mainstream reporters pursued the allegations through interviews and Freedom of Information Act requests, and ultimately the Harrer Spotlight article proved to be a substantially accurate account of the readiness exercise, although Spotlight did underplay the fact that this was a scenario and drill, not an actual order to round up dissidents."
http://www.publiceye.org/rightwoo/rwooz9-14.html
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And by the way, if any of you who know about these kinds of exercises from that era, I have a question. Were they just simulations on computer screens and phonecalls and such? Or were there any "real" activities like running around or moving real equipment? (If the former, that gives the conspiracists even less to crow about.) I picture more tabletop RPG than LARP here.

In a 1990 issue of the Covert Action Information Bulletin, Diana Reynolds writes more details about the facts, the exaggeration, and the historical background of REX-84. (And since it comes from a Left source, I expect a lot of you won't like this article. It does give some of the background of Federal government preparation for mass arrests and detention of political opponents. But the article also makes it clear that REX-84 was not the implementation of any actual internment.)
http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/fema/Fema_0.html

More recently, the concentration camp meme got more traction, but only because people have (willfully?) misunderstood the report. In early 2006, we learned that Kellogg Brown and Root had received a contingency contract for the construction of new ICE detention facilities should the government want them. Note that this was a contingency contract.
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Sto...siteid=mktw&dateid=38741.5136277662-858254656

But, of course lots of folks concluded that this meant they were already being built. That's not to say this isn't a problem, and that there is no threat to citizens who "look like illegal immigrants" or to political dissidents in the U.S. But in this particular case, a lot of people who should know better are jumping to unwarranted conclusions.

 

[Plantfoam]

This is almost as disturbing as the government attempt to punch holes in the atmosphere with fake moon rockets and the HAARP cannon.