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google a writer named Sir Guy Lyon Playfair

As recently as 2003 some twin studies were conducted using polygraph apparatus and two sound proof rooms....it turned out that when one twin plunged his arm into ice cold water, the other had a big blip in his heart rate respirations, brain waves..etc to show shock.....

so go to this auther...Sir Guy Lyon Playfair, he has written a book with a lot of examples of this and even there is record of the CIA doing research on identical twins to try to groom them to become spies...this occured in 1965.

There are four qualifiying things
...1) they have to be absolutely identical.
2) they have to have experienced ESP involentarily before
3) and most of all they need to be emotionaly close to each other, not fighting at the time...
4) they can not send images to each other,,,only pick up some riesidual shock or somethign (as noted on a polygraph test)when something happens to the body of the other...... and the other can be hundreds of miles away!!
 
I found a link to the experiment I think you are describing.

http://www.dprogram.com/twin_telepathy.html

Paragraph 5 of that page admits that "this was not a rigidly controlled scientific experiment", so it's hard to take it with anything more than a grain of salt.

Has there been anything published in a peer-reviewed journal about this?

Odd that every page I go to that mentions both Playfair and twins turns out to be an advertisement for his book on the subject...
 
Searched for Sir Guy Lyon Playfair in Google, got a lot of results. I then narrowed my search with Control and "Double-Blind", since I don't want to waste my time with anything less. Didn't find anything except a .gz file I don't know how to open. The other results mentioned either the absence of controls and double-blinding, and another was a challenge (I presume of a magician) to Uri Geller, claiming he could duplicate all of his "psychic" feats.
 
I'm wondering about the criterion "absolutely identical."

Is there a third type of twin I'm unawaare of? A type called "partly identical" that lies somewhere between fraternal and identical?
 
Sorry for a second post but another thought just struck me.

Why the requirement to have previously had an involuntary ESP experience prior to the experiment?

1. How is this defined?

2. How is ESP determined to have happened prior to the test if the determination of ESP is the purpose of the test?

3. Why must it be involuntary?

4. Did they test any twins who claimed to (a) never have had an ESP experience or (b) had an ESP experience but was voluntary?
 
Re: google a writer named Sir Guy Lyon Playfair

scriptcoc said:
As recently as 2003 some twin studies were conducted using polygraph apparatus and two sound proof rooms....it turned out that when one twin plunged his arm into ice cold water, the other had a big blip in his heart rate respirations, brain waves..etc to show shock.....

so go to this auther...Sir Guy Lyon Playfair, he has written a book with a lot of examples of this and even there is record of the CIA doing research on identical twins to try to groom them to become spies...this occured in 1965.

There are four qualifiying things
...1) they have to be absolutely identical.
2) they have to have experienced ESP involentarily before
3) and most of all they need to be emotionaly close to each other, not fighting at the time...
4) they can not send images to each other,,,only pick up some riesidual shock or somethign (as noted on a polygraph test)when something happens to the body of the other...... and the other can be hundreds of miles away!!
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This would be soooooooooooooooooooooo easy to test..


No test equipment, no nothing..



Just ask the control twin.. " O.K. , Tell us when your twin plunges their arm into ice water..


Sit back and wait...
 
Re: google a writer named Sir Guy Lyon Playfair

scriptcoc said:
As recently as 2003 some twin studies were conducted using polygraph apparatus and two sound proof rooms....it turned out that when one twin plunged his arm into ice cold water, the other had a big blip in his heart rate respirations, brain waves..etc to show shock.....

so go to this auther...Sir Guy Lyon Playfair, he has written a book with a lot of examples of this and even there is record of the CIA doing research on identical twins to try to groom them to become spies...this occured in 1965.

There are four qualifiying things
...1) they have to be absolutely identical.
2) they have to have experienced ESP involentarily before
3) and most of all they need to be emotionaly close to each other, not fighting at the time...
4) they can not send images to each other,,,only pick up some riesidual shock or somethign (as noted on a polygraph test)when something happens to the body of the other...... and the other can be hundreds of miles away!!
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5) They need to be participating in 'dog and pony shows' for British television involving poorly-controlled experiments administered by a group of 'the usual suspect' paranormal "experts".

http://www.dprogram.com/twin_telepathy.html

Polygraphers, hypnotists, talk show hosts... who better to perform an unbiased paranormal experiment?

I like these two gems:

Although this was not a rigidly controlled scientific experiment, it looked very much like it.
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It wasn't a rigidly controlled scientific experiment... but it played one on TV! :D

and this:

We have had the statistical evidence for some time, and we now have the visible evidence, produced by an easily repeatable experiment.
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Visible evidence, produced by an easily repeatable experiment! :eek:

Could it possibly be?! Has the elusive holy grail of parapsychology finally been found?!

Excuse me... I'm going to have a sandwich and take a nap.:slp:
 
1) they have to be absolutely identical.
2) they have to have experienced ESP involentarily before
3) and most of all they need to be emotionaly close to each other, not fighting at the time...
4) they can not send images to each other,,,only pick up some riesidual shock or somethign

Not having read about the test yet, I predict that it's actually a test of the above things, rather than a test of telepathy between twins.

In other words, you do the experiment, and whenever there's a "hit," it means the above four conditions have been met. When there's not a hit, you can discard the failure by saying the twins aren't emotionally close enough, or haven't experienced ESP before, or whatever. Thus the remaining hits are enough to be statistically significant.
 
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