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Eugenie C. Scott Tackles Bigfoot

I'm the one jealous now. We closed out our T&T project in early Dec when we got awarded our new project as a sub under a very large firm. Now we "officially" own a "piece" of all "Harvest Falcon" FOB's in ( you guessed it) the warm friendly sands of....Afghanistan for LOGCAP IV.

Lets see, I traded a Caribbean Island with "Carnival", cheap beer and what can be argued as some of the most beautiful women on Earth for body armor, warm bottled water, occasional sniper fire/attacks and a reinforced bunker.

Yeah, its official- I'm jealous now Crow. LOL

Take heart and here's how. The one thing you mention is warm beer that will help get you through "Island withdrawl". Goes as follows. The Birtish are the brunt of warm beer jokes, warm beer jokes are targeted often at Great Britian. Great Britian is sort of close to Holland and Dutch is the "Official" language of Aruba. So Warm beer=Great Britian=proximity to Holland=Dutch spoken on Aruba=beaches, sea breezes, sunshine and occasionally at least one gorgeous crow. My jolly care free Island nature is counterbalanced by my Germanic other half. Worse yet a technical Germanic other half. Unt Vere ah youh papeas hmmmm?

My politician comment is a complliment BTW. Back when I was embrolied in government sponsored environmental projects my cohorts marvled at my ability to play boths sides, not to the middle but to the cause in question. In other words able to get the best out of every situation. That said remember warm beer will get you through a drought better than cold beer will get you through a flood. Politics! Love em!
 
JF, sorry, life on other planets is a complete dead end.

for bigfoot, we had animals on earth that resembled it= Gigantopithecus, meganthropus robustus, neanderthal.

aliens=none, unless you count the ufo nonsense

Bigfoot is real,but there is absolutely NO chance whatsoever of extraterrestrial life? Riiiight... I'm not saying I believe all the UFO loons,but given th size of the universe,chances are that there is something out there,somewhere. We may never see it,but it quite possibly exists.
 
There are no bones of The giant 10ft ape living in the 10000's pretty recent. Amazing of how rare they are. We dont knoe its place on the tree of life, we just assume it is. There are alot of hominids left to be discovered.

Wha? Can somebody translate?
 
I haven't watched the entire video yet, but some of the folks on Cryptomundo have made comments...


"And this woman has a PhD?? Un-freaking-believable."

"Does she ever address the actual evidence for the creature?"

"Is it really that hard to say “I haven’t reviewed the evidence, and so can’t pass judgment?” Or is it OK to presume that your audience is a bunch of idiots, so your discipline can take a holiday too?"

"It is science which is failing in the bigfoot mystery! How could she sensibly think the evidence for bigfoot’s existence amounts to less than a 5% possibility! Of course she may have confused what gets in the media sometimes with what bigfoot is all about. It seems to me rather sad that she and those she lectures will miss out on a fascinating subject."

"Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Why don’t people like her, instead of trying to act like intellectual experts, just admit that they think everyone who has claimed to see one is a liar. They want to insult cryptozoology but their group, skeptics, was set up to dispute cryptozoology. So just leave us alone. You have nothing to say. Only people that have had experiences are saying it is real. The rest of us are just examining the evidence with an open mind, something so called scientists and experts often conveniently forget to do."

"She’s entitled to her opinion. She’s totally flat out wrong, of course, and she is definitely a debunker. That’s the way it is."

"This women must be part of the Government conspiracy to cover up bigfoot. I feel sorry for the people in that room that had to listen to her."

"She accepts what science has handed down as dogma, the way Moses took the tablets."
 
Comments from the denizens at Cryptomundo are only slightly less useful than those that can be gleaned from homeless guys in train stations.
Anyone who would even waste a moment responding is either incredibly bored and hard-pressed for entertainment, or just a masochist.
 
Comments from the denizens at Cryptomundo are only slightly less useful than those that can be gleaned from homeless guys in train stations.
Anyone who would even waste a moment responding is either incredibly bored and hard-pressed for entertainment, or just a masochist.

Are you freaking serious? Why did scott ignore the fact that most sightings in texas are in a specific region of the state?
 
Are you freaking serious? Why did scott ignore the fact that most sightings in texas are in a specific region of the state?

Because Texas is not in the PNW and therefore not in Bigfoot Country. It's pointless to talk about bigfoot there. Almost as bad as New Jersey.
 
Makaya if you were REALLY serious into giving argument against eugenie scott, you would take on her criticism and try to find evidence of why her criticism is not warranted.

Instead you do the same as the cryptomundo denizen. Comments which are "only slightly less useful than those that can be gleaned from homeless guys in train stations."

I am not even sure about the slightly either.
 
I haven't watched the entire video yet, but some of the folks on Cryptomundo have made comments...


"This women must be part of the Government conspiracy to cover up bigfoot. I feel sorry for the people in that room that had to listen to her."

Busted!

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I read this new round of comments and I have to say- well never mind

This one is a classic

>>>You can’t just spout off your ideas, cherry pick data, and expect people to accept it as fact while at the same time avoiding any meaningful criticism from other scientists who may disagree with you.

( shakes my head)
 
I have a lot of the respect for the those who believe in the existance of Bigfoot. It must be incredibly frustrating and take a lot of mental fortitude. But what I can't understand is that how someone with such strong convictions take such an unconstructive approach to proving oneself right.

I mean... You must feel you are wasting your time being here in this forum. Writing long posts in seemingly endless arguments with people you know will not agree with your conclusion. If you have narrowed down Bigfoots probable habitat to the pacific north west you could be out there looking for it, instead of being here. That is point right? Actually finding a Bigfoot. Not convincing the skeptics that there might be such a creature.

Even if you swayed all the skeptical minds in the world you would still not be closer to actually finding Bigfoot. And since finding Bigfoot would sway them anyway you would still be more productive being out there in the forests. If find evidence that doesn't convince then try to find better evidence. Considering the passion, and sheer stubborness, you display for this topic I'm sure you would make a lot of progress in a short amount of time.
 
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Are you freaking serious? Why did scott ignore the fact that most sightings in texas are in a specific region of the state?
Maybe because it means nothing. Could it be that that's where the most people go? Or where they expect to see something (you have to believe it to see it)? Or where the collectors of sightings have been most active?

What does it mean to you?
 
I have a lot of the respect for the those who believe in the existance of Bigfoot. It must be incredibly frustrating and take a lot of mental fortitude. But what I can't understand is that how someone with such strong convictions take such an unconstructive approach to proving oneself right.

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Wauthan, that's a very cool post and a very good point you raise. This makes me think about Sweaty. All the time he has spent drawing lines on blurry images - what's it all for?

SweatyYeti speaks about a responsibility by humans to locate and prove the existence of Bigfoot, who may be critically endangered as well as our closest living relative. Well, how very admirable. What a philanthropist. But hold on now, what's Sweaty doing to live up to his responsibility? Busting crayons on the PGF, MDF, and Freeman footage. All of them with major indications of not being Bigfoot, including a submission by an admitted hoaxer. Are you insane, man? Nobody, nobody, nobody at all who matters anything about identifying a new species such as Bigfoot gives a crap about that crappy crapola. The PGF, which is your sweet, sweet love, is NEVER going to be accepted unless someone rolls up with a corpse of a sad-sack looking Bigfoot with tummy rocks, a diaper-butt, crazy legs, and a whack head. Dude, really. It ain't gonna happen. Give the kids back there crayons.

But here's the crazy thing that goes right to your point. Sweaty has that mind-bending opportunity to really experience the magic of the Boss of the Woods himself. He could actually get off his butt and go find Bigfoot! Here's the deal. Sweaty is a member of the MABRC (Mid-America Bigfoot Researchers Center).They have this whole thing about thinking outside the box. They actually claim to encounter Bigfoot on numerous occasions. They will be swarmed by Bigfoots. Dude, you have to check this. Here is MABRC head darkwing/D.W. Lee using a trippy-ass kid's noise maker to lure in four, that's 4 Bigfoots:

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And now to get that video right:

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:eye-poppi

:eek:

:jaw-dropp

Nice to see they've gone high-tech with their toys.
Anyone else thinking of Close Encounters of the Third Kind while Darkwing was putting on his musical performance?

Those particular members seem to be lacking cojones and backbones. Please tell me they didn't server in the military.

RayG
 
That's a great video, Kitakaze. It looks like the editing and narrative arcs of their videos are getting tighter and less "flabby" than they used to be. I loved the music and the diagram showing how the bigfoot hunters' position was being encroached upon in four different directions.

If I didn't know better, I'd say it was a pitch-perfect parody of a bigfoot hunting clip. (Even the name "Skilleyville" is perfect.)
 
I have a lot of the respect for the those who believe in the existance of Bigfoot.


If you have narrowed down Bigfoots probable habitat to the pacific north west you could be out there looking for it, instead of being here. That is point right? Actually finding a Bigfoot. Not convincing the skeptics that there might be such a creature.


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That's easy because there is a genuine mystery surrounding the legends and encounters. But how do you feel about those that believe or even discuss Patty?

The second part isn't so easy because nobody is gonna sacrifice their livelihood and family responsibilities to try and capture bigfoot. By the time you retire it would be ridiculous to attempt to capture bigfoot. Time spent here is better than watching sitcoms or documentary reruns. Correcting incessant misinformation is important. Some serious researchers may need to see the proper rebuttals to some of this garbage. Take this for instance: Diogenes repeated statements that sasquatch isn't actually an indian word. I've pointed out to him that neither is Seattle an indian word. It's a bastardized term like so many others in the American language.

Besides if bigfoot is really an impossibility why even discuss it here? There are no threads about fairies, dragons, unicorns, etc. because these are impossible.

Something is the originator of the legends and sightings, and that something is termed bigfoot.

Besides, having the assurity of the existance of bigfoot is one thing. There are other animals that deserve more respect and study however, namely whales. There isn't much serious argument as to the importance of whales, given their speech abilities and other attributes. The only problem is with a couple countries that insist on eating these magnificent creatures, probably thinking it makes their weenies bigger or something. Like bear parts or deer antlers.
 
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That's easy because there is a genuine mystery surrounding the legends and encounters. But how do you feel about those that believe or even discuss Patty?

This wasn't addressed to me but I'm going to answer it anyway. We discuss the PGF on a daily basis so obviously that is something I am fine with. I think on one level for a person to look at the PGF and say "I don't know" is perfectly reasonable. I also think however, that if a person can think critically and know the things we know about the film and the details surrounding it and not feel with a high degree of confidence that the film is a hoax, that they are in some serious type of denial.

Try addressing the messed up anatomy that looks just like a bad suit, the major glaring matches between the William Roe account and the PGF (the whole scene and description, not just a description of the alleged creatures themselves). Try addressing the known factual involvment of Bob Heironimus with his long-time friend and neighbour, Bob Gimlin as well as Roger Patterson. Try addressing how a creature that looks and behaves the way Patty does is supposed to find food and breed and do so without ever being catalogued by science. Just try some basic logical thinking and get back to us.

The second part isn't so easy because nobody is gonna sacrifice their livelihood and family responsibilities to try and capture bigfoot.

Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish. Does it comfort you to make up this garbage? Wildlife biologists, anthropologists, and any number of academics and professionals would claw over each other to have the opportunity to be the one to be able to describe the greatest undescribed species and most mind-bending mystery in the midst of the most powerful and wealthy, heavily populated country on Earth. Bigfoot's discovery would be a dream come true for these people and if such a species did exist as described by you footers, it wouldn't take an effort that wouldn't be paid off a million times over by the discovery.

Correcting incessant misinformation is important.

If it's so important to you, then why are you such a big source of it? Like claiming that most proponents of Bigfoot here get banned within a year. You know that's not true. Any apology? Any admission? No, because you're too intellectually bankrupt and dialed into being a footer to show that kind of integrity here. Another footer who won't admit being wrong to skeptics.

Some serious researchers may need to see the proper rebuttals to some of this garbage.

Like what? Your following example sucks.

Take this for instance: Diogenes repeated statements that sasquatch isn't actually an indian word.I've pointed out to him that neither is Seattle an indian word. It's a bastardized term like so many others in the American language.

So what? I've pointed out about J.W. Burns coining the term "sasquatch" and the Salish term sesquac many times. Your rebuttal is no rebuttal at all and it doesn't mean a whit in terms of discussing evidence for Bigfoot evidence. FAIL. Next.

Besides if bigfoot is really an impossibility why even discuss it here? There are no threads about fairies, dragons, unicorns, etc. because these are impossible.

We don't have threads on faeries? Did you check? And tell us, what exactly makes giant reptiles and one-horned ungulates impossible?

Something is the originator of the legends and sightings, and that something is termed bigfoot.

I would have said people but you've got your mind made up, I see.

Besides, having the assurity of the existance of bigfoot is one thing. There are other animals that deserve more respect and study however, namely whales. There isn't much serious argument as to the importance of whales, given their speech abilities and other attributes. The only problem is with a couple countries that insist on eating these magnificent creatures, probably thinking it makes their weenies bigger or something. Like bear parts or deer antlers.

That's OT. Stick to the subject please. Japanese don't eat whales for increased penis size. They hardly eat whale at all though the goverment would have you believe otherwise. Whale was something that was eaten much more during WWII when times were lean. Now it is something that is a rarity and seen as poor food by most. The government persists in whaling as a symbolic issue to assert sovereignty and have at least one chance to say "no" to foreign pressure. Back to Bigfoot please.
 
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